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Old 11-16-2018, 08:12 AM
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Not necessarily a " Bad " thing...But -

Question: Ask yourself... "Can I give up all control over what happens to me for 16 days in a row no matter how ridiculous, inefficient, illogical and downright stupid it might seem without getting upset about it ?"

If you need structure, sanity, and/or schedules you will have a difficult time.

Effectively, there is no such thing as Schedules, or Scheduling, for that matter.

"Jello nailed to the wall" as mentioned above.

On the other hand, if you CAN go with the "flow" ( think cascading, never ending Wall of Feces ) for two weeks plus at a click.. you will really enjoy it.

Especially when they lose you, without an airplane or a Crew, in Riga, Latvia for 9 days in the summer and you have to sit in the outdoor Cafe's watching all the Super Model East European Women in their summer dresses while downing cold beverages at exceptionally good prices.

(Although, to the money hungry, the above is a nightmare scenario so, your perceptions and mileage may vary.)




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Old 11-16-2018, 08:15 AM
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Bad #2: sometimes the greedy capts take all the pound cake.[/QUOTE]

Definitely have to be in the ACMI world to catch that reference. Ha ha. Five towns forever....
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:41 AM
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Thanks guys! 14+ years here at my regional have me jaded right now. I couldn’t care less about what they did with my 16 days on the road, as long as I a) don’t have to commute and b) have my two weeks off to look forward to at the end.

I’ve been offered a 747 class, but hear that 767 CA is 10 months. How much different is the 767 flying at K4?

Thanks again.
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Locke View Post
This won’t apply until you upgrade, but we only have flight followers, not dispatchers since Connie doesn’t want to pay a higher wage. Because of that there’s no skin in the game when it comes to flight plans. Sometimes it works out great, while other times they’ll ask you to do something completely illegal and you have to tell them to pound sand.
Fact. The department is 5 flight followers/dispatchers short. The past three new hires have left for different airlines in some cases less than 6month on the job. Training and working conditions need to be improved before we will see more consistent flight plans and better overal quality. The revolving door needs to stop if we want to be a big boy airline and have more support out on the line.
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Old 11-16-2018, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3 View Post
If you hate the pax world, the airport appreciation, commuting, crash pads, and cargo that talks back to you, you may just end up loving K4.
It is good that you are experiencing pax flying first, will allow you to appreciate this place more while others will ***** because they have this, "Catch Me if You Can" idea about the pax world, but no experience with it.
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Old 11-16-2018, 01:46 PM
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I want to preface this post w/ I'm very happy here at K4, I'm only leaving if FedEx or UPS calls and maybe a legacy. You wanted the negatives and here they are IMHO:

-Retirement leaves a lot to be desired. Hopefully it's a priority for the next contract because to attract and retain young talent it needs to change.
-Work rules are weak, not awful, but could use some better language in certain areas w/ QoL improvements on the next contract.
-It's ACMI, they're upgrading like crazy now but tomorrow they can be furloughing if we lose a contract or oil skyrockets. That's any job in aviation, but ACMI is especially vulnerable.
-If you're on the 74 side, fighting w/ Travel & Scheduling over CBA complaint Travel/Pairings can be annoying.
-Training leaves a lot to be desired...

Again these are strictly the negatives, and the positives really outweigh these issues. It's a great job and I'm happy to be here.
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck Hawg View Post
Thanks guys! 14+ years here at my regional have me jaded right now. I couldn’t care less about what they did with my 16 days on the road, as long as I a) don’t have to commute and b) have my two weeks off to look forward to at the end.

I’ve been offered a 747 class, but hear that 767 CA is 10 months. How much different is the 767 flying at K4?

Thanks again.
Vastly different, take the 74 class. You can always upgrade onto the 76 later
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Old 11-16-2018, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Stimpy the Kat View Post
Not necessarily a " Bad " thing...But -

Question: Ask yourself... "Can I give up all control over what happens to me for 16 days in a row no matter how ridiculous, inefficient, illogical and downright stupid it might seem without getting upset about it ?"

If you need structure, sanity, and/or schedules you will have a difficult time.

Effectively, there is no such thing as Schedules, or Scheduling, for that matter.

"Jello nailed to the wall" as mentioned above.

On the other hand, if you CAN go with the "flow" ( think cascading, never ending Wall of Feces ) for two weeks plus at a click.. you will really enjoy it.

Especially when they lose you, without an airplane or a Crew, in Riga, Latvia for 9 days in the summer and you have to sit in the outdoor Cafe's watching all the Super Model East European Women in their summer dresses while downing cold beverages at exceptionally good prices.

(Although, to the money hungry, the above is a nightmare scenario so, your perceptions and mileage may vary.)




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I never understood the pilots who got upset Day 1 of a 4 day because the schedule got jacked up. I mean if we had a sweet overnight lined up it's a bummer. Day 4, yeah. I want to get home. But I saw guys lose their minds due to a 1-hour taxi in LGA day 1. Who cares??? We're paid by the minute.
Of course, they were normally the same guys who wouldn't lift a finger if the operation was not working perfectly and take a 3-hour delay.
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck Hawg View Post
Thanks guys! 14+ years here at my regional have me jaded right now. I couldn’t care less about what they did with my 16 days on the road, as long as I a) don’t have to commute and b) have my two weeks off to look forward to at the end.

I’ve been offered a 747 class, but hear that 767 CA is 10 months. How much different is the 767 flying at K4?

Thanks again.
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Old 11-17-2018, 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Puck Hawg View Post
Thanks guys! 14+ years here at my regional have me jaded right now. I couldn’t care less about what they did with my 16 days on the road, as long as I a) don’t have to commute and b) have my two weeks off to look forward to at the end.

I’ve been offered a 747 class, but hear that 767 CA is 10 months. How much different is the 767 flying at K4?

Thanks again.
Night and day dude. 76 is hub turns domestic flying. 74 is cruising the world. Unless you have a serious aversion to jet lag, go 74
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