Kalitta, The Bad
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 233
Not necessarily a " Bad " thing...But -
Question: Ask yourself... "Can I give up all control over what happens to me for 16 days in a row no matter how ridiculous, inefficient, illogical and downright stupid it might seem without getting upset about it ?"
If you need structure, sanity, and/or schedules you will have a difficult time.
Effectively, there is no such thing as Schedules, or Scheduling, for that matter.
"Jello nailed to the wall" as mentioned above.
On the other hand, if you CAN go with the "flow" ( think cascading, never ending Wall of Feces ) for two weeks plus at a click.. you will really enjoy it.
Especially when they lose you, without an airplane or a Crew, in Riga, Latvia for 9 days in the summer and you have to sit in the outdoor Cafe's watching all the Super Model East European Women in their summer dresses while downing cold beverages at exceptionally good prices.
(Although, to the money hungry, the above is a nightmare scenario so, your perceptions and mileage may vary.)
Good Luck !
STK
Question: Ask yourself... "Can I give up all control over what happens to me for 16 days in a row no matter how ridiculous, inefficient, illogical and downright stupid it might seem without getting upset about it ?"
If you need structure, sanity, and/or schedules you will have a difficult time.
Effectively, there is no such thing as Schedules, or Scheduling, for that matter.
"Jello nailed to the wall" as mentioned above.
On the other hand, if you CAN go with the "flow" ( think cascading, never ending Wall of Feces ) for two weeks plus at a click.. you will really enjoy it.
Especially when they lose you, without an airplane or a Crew, in Riga, Latvia for 9 days in the summer and you have to sit in the outdoor Cafe's watching all the Super Model East European Women in their summer dresses while downing cold beverages at exceptionally good prices.
(Although, to the money hungry, the above is a nightmare scenario so, your perceptions and mileage may vary.)
Good Luck !
STK
Last edited by Stimpy the Kat; 11-16-2018 at 08:26 AM.
#13
Thanks guys! 14+ years here at my regional have me jaded right now. I couldn’t care less about what they did with my 16 days on the road, as long as I a) don’t have to commute and b) have my two weeks off to look forward to at the end.
I’ve been offered a 747 class, but hear that 767 CA is 10 months. How much different is the 767 flying at K4?
Thanks again.
I’ve been offered a 747 class, but hear that 767 CA is 10 months. How much different is the 767 flying at K4?
Thanks again.
#14
On Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 13
This won’t apply until you upgrade, but we only have flight followers, not dispatchers since Connie doesn’t want to pay a higher wage. Because of that there’s no skin in the game when it comes to flight plans. Sometimes it works out great, while other times they’ll ask you to do something completely illegal and you have to tell them to pound sand.
#15
If you hate the pax world, the airport appreciation, commuting, crash pads, and cargo that talks back to you, you may just end up loving K4.
It is good that you are experiencing pax flying first, will allow you to appreciate this place more while others will ***** because they have this, "Catch Me if You Can" idea about the pax world, but no experience with it.
It is good that you are experiencing pax flying first, will allow you to appreciate this place more while others will ***** because they have this, "Catch Me if You Can" idea about the pax world, but no experience with it.
#16
I want to preface this post w/ I'm very happy here at K4, I'm only leaving if FedEx or UPS calls and maybe a legacy. You wanted the negatives and here they are IMHO:
-Retirement leaves a lot to be desired. Hopefully it's a priority for the next contract because to attract and retain young talent it needs to change.
-Work rules are weak, not awful, but could use some better language in certain areas w/ QoL improvements on the next contract.
-It's ACMI, they're upgrading like crazy now but tomorrow they can be furloughing if we lose a contract or oil skyrockets. That's any job in aviation, but ACMI is especially vulnerable.
-If you're on the 74 side, fighting w/ Travel & Scheduling over CBA complaint Travel/Pairings can be annoying.
-Training leaves a lot to be desired...
Again these are strictly the negatives, and the positives really outweigh these issues. It's a great job and I'm happy to be here.
-Retirement leaves a lot to be desired. Hopefully it's a priority for the next contract because to attract and retain young talent it needs to change.
-Work rules are weak, not awful, but could use some better language in certain areas w/ QoL improvements on the next contract.
-It's ACMI, they're upgrading like crazy now but tomorrow they can be furloughing if we lose a contract or oil skyrockets. That's any job in aviation, but ACMI is especially vulnerable.
-If you're on the 74 side, fighting w/ Travel & Scheduling over CBA complaint Travel/Pairings can be annoying.
-Training leaves a lot to be desired...
Again these are strictly the negatives, and the positives really outweigh these issues. It's a great job and I'm happy to be here.
#17
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 2,275
Thanks guys! 14+ years here at my regional have me jaded right now. I couldn’t care less about what they did with my 16 days on the road, as long as I a) don’t have to commute and b) have my two weeks off to look forward to at the end.
I’ve been offered a 747 class, but hear that 767 CA is 10 months. How much different is the 767 flying at K4?
Thanks again.
I’ve been offered a 747 class, but hear that 767 CA is 10 months. How much different is the 767 flying at K4?
Thanks again.
#18
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,888
Not necessarily a " Bad " thing...But -
Question: Ask yourself... "Can I give up all control over what happens to me for 16 days in a row no matter how ridiculous, inefficient, illogical and downright stupid it might seem without getting upset about it ?"
If you need structure, sanity, and/or schedules you will have a difficult time.
Effectively, there is no such thing as Schedules, or Scheduling, for that matter.
"Jello nailed to the wall" as mentioned above.
On the other hand, if you CAN go with the "flow" ( think cascading, never ending Wall of Feces ) for two weeks plus at a click.. you will really enjoy it.
Especially when they lose you, without an airplane or a Crew, in Riga, Latvia for 9 days in the summer and you have to sit in the outdoor Cafe's watching all the Super Model East European Women in their summer dresses while downing cold beverages at exceptionally good prices.
(Although, to the money hungry, the above is a nightmare scenario so, your perceptions and mileage may vary.)
Good Luck !
STK
Question: Ask yourself... "Can I give up all control over what happens to me for 16 days in a row no matter how ridiculous, inefficient, illogical and downright stupid it might seem without getting upset about it ?"
If you need structure, sanity, and/or schedules you will have a difficult time.
Effectively, there is no such thing as Schedules, or Scheduling, for that matter.
"Jello nailed to the wall" as mentioned above.
On the other hand, if you CAN go with the "flow" ( think cascading, never ending Wall of Feces ) for two weeks plus at a click.. you will really enjoy it.
Especially when they lose you, without an airplane or a Crew, in Riga, Latvia for 9 days in the summer and you have to sit in the outdoor Cafe's watching all the Super Model East European Women in their summer dresses while downing cold beverages at exceptionally good prices.
(Although, to the money hungry, the above is a nightmare scenario so, your perceptions and mileage may vary.)
Good Luck !
STK
Of course, they were normally the same guys who wouldn't lift a finger if the operation was not working perfectly and take a 3-hour delay.
#19
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,888
Thanks guys! 14+ years here at my regional have me jaded right now. I couldn’t care less about what they did with my 16 days on the road, as long as I a) don’t have to commute and b) have my two weeks off to look forward to at the end.
I’ve been offered a 747 class, but hear that 767 CA is 10 months. How much different is the 767 flying at K4?
Thanks again.
I’ve been offered a 747 class, but hear that 767 CA is 10 months. How much different is the 767 flying at K4?
Thanks again.
#20
Thanks guys! 14+ years here at my regional have me jaded right now. I couldn’t care less about what they did with my 16 days on the road, as long as I a) don’t have to commute and b) have my two weeks off to look forward to at the end.
I’ve been offered a 747 class, but hear that 767 CA is 10 months. How much different is the 767 flying at K4?
Thanks again.
I’ve been offered a 747 class, but hear that 767 CA is 10 months. How much different is the 767 flying at K4?
Thanks again.
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