Kalitta Pilots CBA update
06-17-2021, 02:00 PM
#492
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Joined APC: Feb 2014
Position: Semi-Retired...
Posts: 3,127
Originally Posted by Joachim
Yes. The soft money is where the difference lies. By looking at the pay rates you wouldn't think that a B6 E190 CA could make mid to high 300s but some do. There are Allegiant pilots who make that kind of money but they seem less common and are probably senior at the right bases.
06-18-2021, 08:08 AM
#493
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Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 745
Originally Posted by Cujo665
I wasn’t referring to B6; their rates are significantly higher. Spirit, Frontier & Allegiant are all very close, within $2 to $8 per hour at various steps. If you’re saying Spirit guys do very well, then by default the other two are right there with them, or at least very close.
07-26-2021, 12:09 PM
#494
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Joined APC: Dec 2020
Posts: 72
“NO VOTES” soap box.
I just finished 3 weeks on the road with a slew of different FOs. All good people, but I’m sick of hearing how everyone voted “NO”.
I didn’t see any of you posting on here or talking on the line while the vote was open. Now, all you want to go elsewhere because “the company slipped one by”. You guys voted this in, despite a major hiring boom and pilot shortage.
I voiced my (civil) opinion here that they knew COVID would end and they were trying to get a new contract quickly. And my only issue (but a BIG one) with the contact was the retirement matching.
Everyone had their opportunity to vote based upon how you saw things, but this isn’t my first rodeo. I’m sick of hearing how no one voted ‘yes’ for this contract.
Just be honest out there is all I ask. If you voted ‘yes’ admit it or just don’t talk about it. It’s here now, I dropped talking about and went with what the majority decided. Don’t talk to me for 8 hours on how you voted ‘no’. I didn’t have a lot of support on here when voting was open. (Everyone was always polite and willing to talk or listen about my concerns). This just seems to happen every time a TA passes, magically, everyone voted ‘no’.
I just finished 3 weeks on the road with a slew of different FOs. All good people, but I’m sick of hearing how everyone voted “NO”.
I didn’t see any of you posting on here or talking on the line while the vote was open. Now, all you want to go elsewhere because “the company slipped one by”. You guys voted this in, despite a major hiring boom and pilot shortage.
I voiced my (civil) opinion here that they knew COVID would end and they were trying to get a new contract quickly. And my only issue (but a BIG one) with the contact was the retirement matching.
Everyone had their opportunity to vote based upon how you saw things, but this isn’t my first rodeo. I’m sick of hearing how no one voted ‘yes’ for this contract.
Just be honest out there is all I ask. If you voted ‘yes’ admit it or just don’t talk about it. It’s here now, I dropped talking about and went with what the majority decided. Don’t talk to me for 8 hours on how you voted ‘no’. I didn’t have a lot of support on here when voting was open. (Everyone was always polite and willing to talk or listen about my concerns). This just seems to happen every time a TA passes, magically, everyone voted ‘no’.
07-27-2021, 08:03 PM
#495
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2021
Position: Captain
Posts: 17
Pilots can leave and an LOU can be written to up the retirement contributions. There is a vesting schedule for the first five years anyway. The only way the money in the retirement fund will improve is if the replacement training costs are greater than the 401k costs.
02-11-2022, 09:14 AM
#496
Tin Can Time
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: Entitled Newb
Posts: 168
Survey
Thread Bump!!
New hire here and I received a ALPA survey asking what would keep me here at K4, if I was planning on jumping to purple or brown. I figure pay increases, much larger direct contribution to 401k (14-18%), better work, rest, DH, etc. rules are just some of the few things that need to be listed. I'm just wondering what some of the more seasoned folks here want to see aggressively pursued by our representatives. And what are we willing to do to ensure our quality of both work and private lives are addressed in the coming years? From my standpoint things are pretty good. But then again, I'm new.
New hire here and I received a ALPA survey asking what would keep me here at K4, if I was planning on jumping to purple or brown. I figure pay increases, much larger direct contribution to 401k (14-18%), better work, rest, DH, etc. rules are just some of the few things that need to be listed. I'm just wondering what some of the more seasoned folks here want to see aggressively pursued by our representatives. And what are we willing to do to ensure our quality of both work and private lives are addressed in the coming years? From my standpoint things are pretty good. But then again, I'm new.
02-11-2022, 02:27 PM
#497
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 831
Originally Posted by JungleJetDriver
Thread Bump!!
New hire here and I received a ALPA survey asking what would keep me here at K4, if I was planning on jumping to purple or brown. I figure pay increases, much larger direct contribution to 401k (14-18%), better work, rest, DH, etc. rules are just some of the few things that need to be listed. I'm just wondering what some of the more seasoned folks here want to see aggressively pursued by our representatives. And what are we willing to do to ensure our quality of both work and private lives are addressed in the coming years? From my standpoint things are pretty good. But then again, I'm new.
New hire here and I received a ALPA survey asking what would keep me here at K4, if I was planning on jumping to purple or brown. I figure pay increases, much larger direct contribution to 401k (14-18%), better work, rest, DH, etc. rules are just some of the few things that need to be listed. I'm just wondering what some of the more seasoned folks here want to see aggressively pursued by our representatives. And what are we willing to do to ensure our quality of both work and private lives are addressed in the coming years? From my standpoint things are pretty good. But then again, I'm new.
02-11-2022, 07:20 PM
#498
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: Boeing
Posts: 543
Originally Posted by JungleJetDriver
Thread Bump!!
New hire here and I received a ALPA survey asking what would keep me here at K4, if I was planning on jumping to purple or brown. I figure pay increases, much larger direct contribution to 401k (14-18%), better work, rest, DH, etc. rules are just some of the few things that need to be listed. I'm just wondering what some of the more seasoned folks here want to see aggressively pursued by our representatives. And what are we willing to do to ensure our quality of both work and private lives are addressed in the coming years? From my standpoint things are pretty good. But then again, I'm new.
New hire here and I received a ALPA survey asking what would keep me here at K4, if I was planning on jumping to purple or brown. I figure pay increases, much larger direct contribution to 401k (14-18%), better work, rest, DH, etc. rules are just some of the few things that need to be listed. I'm just wondering what some of the more seasoned folks here want to see aggressively pursued by our representatives. And what are we willing to do to ensure our quality of both work and private lives are addressed in the coming years? From my standpoint things are pretty good. But then again, I'm new.
SHOOT for the stars! Brown and Purple contract combined… Ole ALPA will get it done for ya!
02-12-2022, 08:09 AM
#499
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Joined APC: Dec 2020
Posts: 72
Originally Posted by goinaround
The survey wants your input……not random APC warrior input. Just go with what you know and for the love of god…..let’s not get into it here.
Having our pilots on the same page and shooting for the same goal will align our bargaining interest and provide an easier path there.
I have said here or on the line, if you want purple and brown contract, go to purple and brown. That’s the easiest way management can see what pilots want. Just like flying … don’t hint and hope.
02-14-2022, 12:28 PM
#500
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 267
Originally Posted by Frank717
While it’s true not much will be gained by throwing it on APC, there is little to be lost.
Having our pilots on the same page and shooting for the same goal will align our bargaining interest and provide an easier path there.
I have said here or on the line, if you want purple and brown contract, go to purple and brown. That’s the easiest way management can see what pilots want. Just like flying … don’t hint and hope.
Having our pilots on the same page and shooting for the same goal will align our bargaining interest and provide an easier path there.
I have said here or on the line, if you want purple and brown contract, go to purple and brown. That’s the easiest way management can see what pilots want. Just like flying … don’t hint and hope.
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