SYD Layover with CPAP - It ain't no worries!
04-12-2021, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TiredSoul
You posted the exact same thing in the United subforum.
Sydney Layover - Unsat with CPAP
So which one is it? Kalitta or United?
Sydney Layover - Unsat with CPAP
So which one is it? Kalitta or United?
Yes I did. It is both carriers. Because those are the specific companies rumoured to have addressed the situation. I don't have clarity on that yet, but I learned that FedEx is thoroughly briefinging SYD-bound crews regarding what to expect.
04-12-2021, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by phishhman
A simple search of Zippin's posts suggests he works for Delta.
You're not wrong. I don't offer affiliation up front, in case a thread goes sideways, which it hasn't really yet, aside from some natural suspicion; our company can get kind of funny about social media posts. The content of my message is not intended to reveal any unflattering or proprietary information (of course, I'm waiving any HIPA protections I might be entitled to by posting). Personal health information seems to be overridden by pandemic concerns. I'm just trying to navigate this "hornet's nest."
04-18-2021, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by zippinbye
I had a SYD layover last week - the 4th since the AU quarantine protocols have been in place. Being incarcerated for 24 or 48 hours sucks, but a new "program" has taken it to a new low for me. I wear a CPAP for sleep apnea; it's use is mandatory as a condition of issuance for my FAA medical certificate.
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I wish US treated pilots and flight attendants from other countries EXACTLY the same way their countries treat us.
For example all Australian pilots should be escorted to their hotel rooms by an armed police officer (no joke, that’s how we get to our hotel rooms in Sydney) and if you use CPAP they should lock you up in a “health facility” where a nurse calls you every 4 hours or so to see if you’re doing ok (as reported by several of our pilots). Apparently they have NO concept of crew rest and treat you like a long-term patient. You worry about your airport pickup time? Well, you’ll needs your doctor’s note for that... Australia is an absolute embarrassment for our profession right now.
Pilots from ALL Chinese airlines should be locked up in their rooms with no air conditioning and very limited and border-line edible food choices while pilots from HKG based airlines should be sent to a double-wide trailers where they’re locked up for 14 days if there’s even an inkling of them having been exposed to the very virus China absolutely destroyed the world with.
I’m sure there are other, similar examples around the world.
If their crews were treated the way they treat us this nonsense would stop tomorrow.
04-20-2021, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by whalesurfer
Thanks for sharing this here.. several, very similar stories at Brown. Australia has turned into one of our worst layovers. That whole country is absolutely paralyzed with fear and the solution seems to be more and more knee-jerk reactions.
I wish US treated pilots and flight attendants from other countries EXACTLY the same way their countries treat us.
For example all Australian pilots should be escorted to their hotel rooms by an armed police officer (no joke, that’s how we get to our hotel rooms in Sydney) and if you use CPAP they should lock you up in a “health facility” where a nurse calls you every 4 hours or so to see if you’re doing ok (as reported by several of our pilots). Apparently they have NO concept of crew rest and treat you like a long-term patient. You worry about your airport pickup time? Well, you’ll needs your doctor’s note for that... Australia is an absolute embarrassment for our profession right now.
Pilots from ALL Chinese airlines should be locked up in their rooms with no air conditioning and very limited and border-line edible food choices while pilots from HKG based airlines should be sent to a double-wide trailers where they’re locked up for 14 days if there’s even an inkling of them having been exposed to the very virus China absolutely destroyed the world with.
I’m sure there are other, similar examples around the world.
If their crews were treated the way they treat us this nonsense would stop tomorrow.
I wish US treated pilots and flight attendants from other countries EXACTLY the same way their countries treat us.
For example all Australian pilots should be escorted to their hotel rooms by an armed police officer (no joke, that’s how we get to our hotel rooms in Sydney) and if you use CPAP they should lock you up in a “health facility” where a nurse calls you every 4 hours or so to see if you’re doing ok (as reported by several of our pilots). Apparently they have NO concept of crew rest and treat you like a long-term patient. You worry about your airport pickup time? Well, you’ll needs your doctor’s note for that... Australia is an absolute embarrassment for our profession right now.
Pilots from ALL Chinese airlines should be locked up in their rooms with no air conditioning and very limited and border-line edible food choices while pilots from HKG based airlines should be sent to a double-wide trailers where they’re locked up for 14 days if there’s even an inkling of them having been exposed to the very virus China absolutely destroyed the world with.
I’m sure there are other, similar examples around the world.
If their crews were treated the way they treat us this nonsense would stop tomorrow.
06-14-2021, 06:59 PM
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Be advised there was a massive CPAP recall just announced:
https://www.usa.philips.com/healthca...ons/src-update
https://www.usa.philips.com/healthca...ons/src-update
10-13-2021, 10:58 PM
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No question quarantine is taken seriously in Australia
Every country is free to adopt their own approach & deal with the consequences
Australia 1000 Covid dead bodies Vs USA 700,000 dead bodies , each to their own
The amenity & enjoyment of flight crews on layovers isn't front of mind for Aust Govt & the same is done
to flight crew from Syd/Melb when they fly domestically around Australia - stay in Hotel room. So don't think you
are getting VIP treatment
Patient zero for Delta strain in Australia was flight crew from USA - North of 100 dead bodies now & many more to come
from that breach. 100 + dead bodies is taken seriously in Australia
Yes many in Australia think the Govts (Fed & State) have been over-cautious & over-zealous, otoh 4/6 Australian states & 1/2 Mainland territories have effectively remained Covid free.
Tale of two countries really Covid infected (Sydney/Melb) & Covid free , the other states & no travel between the two
Western Australia is effectively a third country & will not open to the rest of Australia until mid-next year
It is routine that State Govts deny Australians the right to travel to another state to visit terminally ill relatives/attend funerals & to jail people for breaching state borders . Real challenge for 40,000 plus Australians stranded overseas to get home
So you actually probably got treated quite nicely in comparison to how many many Australians have been treated by their various Governments
Every country is free to adopt their own approach & deal with the consequences
Australia 1000 Covid dead bodies Vs USA 700,000 dead bodies , each to their own
The amenity & enjoyment of flight crews on layovers isn't front of mind for Aust Govt & the same is done
to flight crew from Syd/Melb when they fly domestically around Australia - stay in Hotel room. So don't think you
are getting VIP treatment
Patient zero for Delta strain in Australia was flight crew from USA - North of 100 dead bodies now & many more to come
from that breach. 100 + dead bodies is taken seriously in Australia
Yes many in Australia think the Govts (Fed & State) have been over-cautious & over-zealous, otoh 4/6 Australian states & 1/2 Mainland territories have effectively remained Covid free.
Tale of two countries really Covid infected (Sydney/Melb) & Covid free , the other states & no travel between the two
Western Australia is effectively a third country & will not open to the rest of Australia until mid-next year
It is routine that State Govts deny Australians the right to travel to another state to visit terminally ill relatives/attend funerals & to jail people for breaching state borders . Real challenge for 40,000 plus Australians stranded overseas to get home
So you actually probably got treated quite nicely in comparison to how many many Australians have been treated by their various Governments
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10-13-2021, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Trojan65
No question quarantine is taken seriously in Australia
Every country is free to adopt their own approach & deal with the consequences
Australia 1000 Covid dead bodies Vs USA 700,000 dead bodies , each to their own
The amenity & enjoyment of flight crews on layovers isn't front of mind for Aust Govt & the same is done
to flight crew from Syd/Melb when they fly domestically around Australia - stay in Hotel room. So don't think you
are getting VIP treatment
Patient zero for Delta strain in Australia was flight crew from USA - North of 100 dead bodies now
Every country is free to adopt their own approach & deal with the consequences
Australia 1000 Covid dead bodies Vs USA 700,000 dead bodies , each to their own
The amenity & enjoyment of flight crews on layovers isn't front of mind for Aust Govt & the same is done
to flight crew from Syd/Melb when they fly domestically around Australia - stay in Hotel room. So don't think you
are getting VIP treatment
Patient zero for Delta strain in Australia was flight crew from USA - North of 100 dead bodies now
10-13-2021, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Trojan65
Not trolling at all
Just trying to explain the approach that has been taken in Australia, similar in NZ also
Other countries are allowed to adopt different approaches to managing a global pandemic than the USA
Just trying to explain the approach that has been taken in Australia, similar in NZ also
Other countries are allowed to adopt different approaches to managing a global pandemic than the USA
Those 700k people had a choice.
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