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Old 03-08-2023, 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by shroomwell
What section of the contract “flatly states that the pilot is ‘on the hook’ for 16 days per bid period?”
Exactly there isn't such a section. This all came from our guarantee and daily "credit", (64/4=16). I've always said that if / once you reach 64 hours you should be free to go home if you want because that is the only number you are held to in reality.

And while we are on the subject of 64 hours, as I have said before, plan life / budget on 64 hours and not anything more than that and not 75/80+ like some do and get upset when they don't see it.
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Old 03-09-2023, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jhugz
Or you can be like one check airmen that dinged you one hour into your four hour break (1st break) because he was too tired and needed to sleep. Then proceeded to sleep all the way to top of D so that he could ski/snowboard the next day. That was cool…
The same CKA that cozies up and parties/raves with the King and Queen of Kalitta Flight Ops and spends his last few minutes beyond the TOD (after he wakes ups) telling you what you did wrong while he was sleeping during the entire flight? Don't miss that place at all.
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Old 03-10-2023, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Hendrix
The same CKA that cozies up and parties/raves with the King and Queen of Kalitta Flight Ops and spends his last few minutes beyond the TOD (after he wakes ups) telling you what you did wrong while he was sleeping during the entire flight? Don't miss that place at all.
That doesn’t narrow it down.
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Old 03-10-2023, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Locke
That doesn’t narrow it down.
Sure it does. I don’t doubt that the veracity of the report. However most pilots would chalk it up as a bad day, not still having hurt feelings this long after the flight.
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Old 03-10-2023, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by maxjet
Sure it does. I don’t doubt that the veracity of the report. However most pilots would chalk it up as a bad day, not still having hurt feelings this long after the flight.
Just a lack of professional curiosity. Obviously it isn’t a bad day as multiple people have the same report and it continues to happen. This person has no business being a check airmen, but like most things at K4, being a part of the inner circle is more important then actually being good at your job.
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Old 03-10-2023, 11:39 AM
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All you have to do is ring the crew call button. In my entire career I've never seen a pilot refuse to come out of the bunk when it was their turn.
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Old 03-10-2023, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jhugz
Just a lack of professional curiosity. Obviously it isn’t a bad day as multiple people have the same report and it continues to happen. This person has no business being a check airmen, but like most things at K4, being a part of the inner circle is more important then actually being good at your job.
Not a bad day for the sleeper a bad day for the crewman who lost rest. So instead of ringing the call button and telling said person to come back because they need their rest, this person waits until they no longer work there to tell us all how bad their feelings were hurt that day over the pacific.

BTW have you done anything personally to convey what you write on here to management. That guy has been like that his whole career. I also have never known him not to come back up front when he was dinged by the crew member who needed rest.

I completely agree with your assessment of a lack of professionalism on his part. All in all I guess it is better than a guy who used to sleep naked in the bunks. Or another guy who used to steal toilet paper, or anything else that was not tied down. How about that fat, bald, bastard who used to drink all of the Diet Soda (oh wait! That was me).
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Old 03-10-2023, 03:02 PM
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How about that fat, bald, bastard who used to drink all of the Diet Soda (oh wait! That was me).
No one cared that you drank all the sodas. They cared that you were a ****ty, unprofessional instructor and yelled at people in the sim.
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Old 03-10-2023, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sky jet
All you have to do is ring the crew call button. In my entire career I've never seen a pilot refuse to come out of the bunk when it was their turn.
If I wasn’t still a probbie FO still new to the job I would have. How about as a check airmen, you set the proper culture…I know, I know…I’m asking for a lot.
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Old 03-10-2023, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mhaviate
Well, that's an eye opener. Working 16 in a row, and having the company fly me to and from, was the main attraction for me. I left the regionals largely because of the commuting nightmare each week.
He’s being a bit over dramatic with this. “Multiple commutes a month…are the norm” is just not true. Yes, we used to have more proper “first-half” or “back-half” lines, and now there is more variety in start and end days. But there are also plenty of higher paying lines and also lots of lines that only work 12-15 days. If you don’t mind working the full 16 days and are okay with starting on the 12th one month and starting on the 14th the next, you’ll very quickly have the seniority to work just one block a month (unless the economy completely falls apart, in which case every 121 pilot is in trouble). Some junior people stitch together 2 split lines and work like the 20th-ish to around the sixth of the next month, so one commute a month still. Being a revolving door and taking on new planes for the next 2 years, FO seniority moves quickly and upgrade is still around 4 years.

Yes, there are things that need to be fixed that the company doesn’t want to fix and it isn’t perfect here, but it’s good enough for some of us to make a career here. I just wanted to add some context.
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