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Old 12-26-2016, 02:53 PM
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So how do you get significantly above guarantee if you do not get pulled off your line? Can't get that golden egg shoved anywhere unless you are off your line.

There are two reasons to complain about being pulled off your line. One is about the schmuck who had the horsepower to steal your trip, and the other is what you did after. Either if it got you sat for days, or you ended up in a less than pleasant place. I wasn't happy about being pulled from my HNL flights and put on the painful 7 hour sits in SJU, but it got me paid more. Actually it was one of the few times I ever knew what my line really was. Was looking forward to weekends in HNL.
All I am saying is.... I we have heard for SIX years.... I dont understand why I am off my line... blah blah blah... NOW with the realization that the new CP is going to try and KEEP people on their bid lines... people are complaining.. that is all...

Bottom line.. if you are senior you can bid the above guarantee lines.. if you can't.. you will get whats left... Lets see how it really plays out over the next year before making any real judgements.

And yes DC8... it felt like we were getting paid in the rear....
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Old 12-26-2016, 05:59 PM
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You sound angry.

You never heard complaints about being off a line from me. Aside from the above reasons, I don't know why someone would complain about being off a line.
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Old 12-26-2016, 11:36 PM
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Angry? NO...I find it hilarious.... Three times in the past couple years I have been removed from a trip so someone could "get back on their line".....

As I said... its not as easy as it sounds...lets re-evalute in a 9-12 months to see how well they are doing.
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Old 12-27-2016, 03:10 AM
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I would say the health care costs went up very significantly. Plus, that is a door that will never get closed again. Health care expenses will now never not go up. This was a huge loss in my opinion.

We also just got the first indication going above guarantee will be difficult going forward. Staying on our lines will be a bad thing for the paycheck. Granted it may take a while for them to get staffing to the point where we actually will stay on our lines, but doing so will be a big pay hit.
Here is the new health insurance cost. I don't see this as significant.

Single (Per Pay Period )

DOS. $50
DOS +1 $75
DOS +2 $100
DOS +3 $125


Family ( Per Pay Period)

DOS $125
DOS +1 $150
DOS +2 $175
DOS +3 $200
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Old 12-27-2016, 04:02 AM
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Here is the new health insurance cost. I don't see this as significant.

Single (Per Pay Period )

DOS. $50
DOS +1 $75
DOS +2 $100
DOS +3 $125


Family ( Per Pay Period)

DOS $125
DOS +1 $150
DOS +2 $175
DOS +3 $200
Exactly!! How can people say the health costs are a significant increase?? I guess if you have paid sweet ******* all for years then yes $10 could be a significant increase. This is nothing especially when compared as a percentage of income. Was looking at the GF's medical the other day. For about the same coverage as me her company's plan was $326 bi-weekly on a $45000 yearly salary, mine $50 on $180,000+. Which do you think is "significant"?????
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Old 12-27-2016, 04:10 AM
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Exactly!! How can people say the health costs are a significant increase?? I guess if you have paid sweet ******* all for years then yes $10 could be a significant increase. This is nothing especially when compared as a percentage of income. Was looking at the GF's medical the other day. For about the same coverage as me her company's plan was $326 bi-weekly on a $45000 yearly salary, mine $50 on $180,000+. Which do you think is "significant"?????
Same for my wife...if we got comparable coverage thru my wifes company it would be $750 a month... on her 98K salary.
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Old 12-27-2016, 05:27 AM
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Angry? NO...I find it hilarious.... Three times in the past couple years I have been removed from a trip so someone could "get back on their line".....
No wonder why you are angry. They stole your trip to keep themselves moving. They just did it in a manner that got scheduling to do it and had you justifying it in your head so you didn't, or couldn't complain as much.

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Old 12-27-2016, 05:32 AM
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Same for my wife...if we got comparable coverage thru my wifes company it would be $750 a month... on her 98K salary.
Don't worry. We will get there. Looks like 4 years using your example you will exceed the current cost. And as said before the door has been opened.....
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No wonder why you are angry. They stole your trip to keep themselves moving. They just did it in a manner that got scheduling to do it and had you justifying it in your head so you didn't, or couldn't complain as much.
I think your reading comprehension is off... NOT angry.... I find it funny as **** that the same guys who use to complain about being off there line.. are now complaining about BEING on their line in many cases.....Karma will bite their ass's some day... it always does
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Old 12-27-2016, 11:28 AM
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Don't worry. We will get there. Looks like 4 years using your example you will exceed the current cost. And as said before the door has been opened.....
Our healthcare costs are still WAY below what the vast majority of business's pass on to their employees.... and frankly anyone who thought we would get a significant pay raise without having to start paying some of our Healthcare costs... was just ... well.. fooling themselves. Even in year 4 of this contract for me personally it will be much cheaper than if purchased from my wife's company... and thats assuming no increases on their part.
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