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#111
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
So how do you get significantly above guarantee if you do not get pulled off your line? Can't get that golden egg shoved anywhere unless you are off your line.
There are two reasons to complain about being pulled off your line. One is about the schmuck who had the horsepower to steal your trip, and the other is what you did after. Either if it got you sat for days, or you ended up in a less than pleasant place. I wasn't happy about being pulled from my HNL flights and put on the painful 7 hour sits in SJU, but it got me paid more. Actually it was one of the few times I ever knew what my line really was. Was looking forward to weekends in HNL.
There are two reasons to complain about being pulled off your line. One is about the schmuck who had the horsepower to steal your trip, and the other is what you did after. Either if it got you sat for days, or you ended up in a less than pleasant place. I wasn't happy about being pulled from my HNL flights and put on the painful 7 hour sits in SJU, but it got me paid more. Actually it was one of the few times I ever knew what my line really was. Was looking forward to weekends in HNL.
Bottom line.. if you are senior you can bid the above guarantee lines.. if you can't.. you will get whats left... Lets see how it really plays out over the next year before making any real judgements.
And yes DC8... it felt like we were getting paid in the rear....
#113
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
Angry? NO...I find it hilarious.... Three times in the past couple years I have been removed from a trip so someone could "get back on their line".....
As I said... its not as easy as it sounds...lets re-evalute in a 9-12 months to see how well they are doing.
As I said... its not as easy as it sounds...lets re-evalute in a 9-12 months to see how well they are doing.
#114
I would say the health care costs went up very significantly. Plus, that is a door that will never get closed again. Health care expenses will now never not go up. This was a huge loss in my opinion.
We also just got the first indication going above guarantee will be difficult going forward. Staying on our lines will be a bad thing for the paycheck. Granted it may take a while for them to get staffing to the point where we actually will stay on our lines, but doing so will be a big pay hit.
We also just got the first indication going above guarantee will be difficult going forward. Staying on our lines will be a bad thing for the paycheck. Granted it may take a while for them to get staffing to the point where we actually will stay on our lines, but doing so will be a big pay hit.
Single (Per Pay Period )
DOS. $50
DOS +1 $75
DOS +2 $100
DOS +3 $125
Family ( Per Pay Period)
DOS $125
DOS +1 $150
DOS +2 $175
DOS +3 $200
#115
Exactly!! How can people say the health costs are a significant increase?? I guess if you have paid sweet ******* all for years then yes $10 could be a significant increase. This is nothing especially when compared as a percentage of income. Was looking at the GF's medical the other day. For about the same coverage as me her company's plan was $326 bi-weekly on a $45000 yearly salary, mine $50 on $180,000+. Which do you think is "significant"?????
#116
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
Exactly!! How can people say the health costs are a significant increase?? I guess if you have paid sweet ******* all for years then yes $10 could be a significant increase. This is nothing especially when compared as a percentage of income. Was looking at the GF's medical the other day. For about the same coverage as me her company's plan was $326 bi-weekly on a $45000 yearly salary, mine $50 on $180,000+. Which do you think is "significant"?????
#117
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 41
No wonder why you are angry. They stole your trip to keep themselves moving. They just did it in a manner that got scheduling to do it and had you justifying it in your head so you didn't, or couldn't complain as much.
Last edited by Reserve; 12-27-2016 at 05:45 AM.
#118
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 41
Don't worry. We will get there. Looks like 4 years using your example you will exceed the current cost. And as said before the door has been opened.....
#119
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
I think your reading comprehension is off... NOT angry.... I find it funny as **** that the same guys who use to complain about being off there line.. are now complaining about BEING on their line in many cases.....Karma will bite their ass's some day... it always does
#120
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
Our healthcare costs are still WAY below what the vast majority of business's pass on to their employees.... and frankly anyone who thought we would get a significant pay raise without having to start paying some of our Healthcare costs... was just ... well.. fooling themselves. Even in year 4 of this contract for me personally it will be much cheaper than if purchased from my wife's company... and thats assuming no increases on their part.
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