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Old 11-27-2016, 08:03 AM
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For whatever its worth, the guys that do not want this information to be made public are concerned the aviation community will know what a large pile of dung this new contract is.

No rig, no work rules, nothing to keep scheduling honest, and the travel section is full of holes and ways for the company to screw you.
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Old 11-27-2016, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CRJ1000 View Post
I am not sure this is legal:

"9. Military Duty
When a Crewmember has military duty of fourteen (14) Days or less, he must
bid all Bid Lines that accommodate such military duty. Days of military duty will
be considered a SDFDO. If a Crewmember is unable or fails to bid around his
military duty, he will be assigned duty Days that will not conflict with his military duty requirements."

Employer Support of the Guard and Reserve > USERRA > What is USERRA
It isn't. If the union is smart they forced Kalitta to give them something to put that in there. Then when Kalitta tries to enforce it the mil guys can just file Userra complaints. In any event that language is completely illegal.
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Old 11-27-2016, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Stimpy the Kat View Post
Why would this not be Kosher?

It permits the crewmember to make his military commitment with no penalty.

Shouldn't be a problem (?)
You're permitted to do your military duty during work for your civilian job so you're not forced into working 30 days a month. Kalitta should be able to prorate pay accordingly.
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Old 11-27-2016, 08:51 AM
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Oh, yeah I see that now.
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Old 11-27-2016, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ex402dvr View Post
For anyone that is concerned this was posted, is there a reason you do not want the information to be to be made public? This is the contract that has been offered, I did not see anywhere where the time and effort put forth by anyone on our negotiating committee has been disparaged.
Good thing we are voting on it and not the opinion of the unprofessional on apc.
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Old 11-27-2016, 09:45 AM
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Good thing we are voting on it and not the opinion of the unprofessional on apc.
Yeah I guess I don't get it? Why everyone feels that they have the right to weigh in on what's best for Kallita pilots. It's totally up to them. They get to vote it in or out as they see fit.

Whenever ABX gets a TA I am going to vote it in or out in my best interest.
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Old 11-27-2016, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Kougarok View Post
Yeah I guess I don't get it? Why everyone feels that they have the right to weigh in on what's best for Kallita pilots. It's totally up to them. They get to vote it in or out as they see fit.

Whenever ABX gets a TA I am going to vote it in or out in my best interest.
^^^^^^^^^^ This.....
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Old 11-27-2016, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Code Red View Post
Good thing we are voting on it and not the opinion of the unprofessional on apc.

If you listen to the opinion on APC from everyone that is not a Kalitta pilot that would be your error. But make no mistake, this is or is not going to be our next contract and I will vote it up or down based upon my opinion. But having said that, I still do not see anything wrong with posting the contract. Own it or reject it, but for you or anyone else to get upset by this speaks volumes as to what you really think of this document.

So I have to ask, are you embarrassed by this new contract?
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Old 11-27-2016, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Kougarok View Post
Yeah I guess I don't get it? Why everyone feels that they have the right to weigh in on what's best for Kallita pilots. It's totally up to them. They get to vote it in or out as they see fit.

Whenever ABX gets a TA I am going to vote it in or out in my best interest.
Exactly. Thank you.
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Old 11-27-2016, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ex402dvr View Post
.................................................. .................................. So I have to ask, are you embarrassed by this new contract?
That's a good question.
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