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Old 12-31-2016, 10:58 PM
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Any Kalitta types out there that can answer questions about jumpseating out of New Delhi..?

Looks like Kalitta has a a nearly daily flight out of New Delhi to Hong Kong. I'm a Delta pilot over in India for about 2 weeks. Delta doesn't fly to India anymore and after the ID90 fun I had on Jet Airways to get here...I'd prefer to try other options to get out of the country. If I can make it to Hong Kong I can pick up a Delta flight there or try to make it farther with Kalitta or Atlas to get back Stateside.

Anybody with an expertise on this? How would I list for the jumpseat? Where would I meet the crew? Clear customs? etc..etc.. Any help would me much appreciated. Reply here or PM me.

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Old 01-01-2017, 12:25 AM
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ACM requests are handled through flight operations dept. First time jump seaters must call at least 24 hours prior for employment verification. Unfortunately Kalitta's reciprocal jumpseat agreement list includes Delta only for domestic flights.
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I knew UPS and FedEx's policy specifically says domestic flights only, but looking at the ALPA site for jumpseating I don't see the domestic restriction listed there. Where are you seeing it is for domestic only flights?




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ACM requests are handled through flight operations dept. First time jump seaters must call at least 24 hours prior for employment verification. Unfortunately Kalitta's reciprocal jumpseat agreement list includes Delta only for domestic flights.
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Atlas has flights every few days from there lately too.
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I'm trying to depart on the 13th and the first Atlas flight I see is on the 16th from what I can tell. I'll keep eyeballing their schedule, but might be slum-dog millionairing it outta here on the ID90 again if Kalitta isn't an option.


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Atlas has flights every few days from there lately too.
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11th, 15th, and 16th (Z dates) flights to HKG on Atlas. Good luck with the Delhi Belly!
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Originally Posted by HTBH View Post
I'm trying to depart on the 13th and the first Atlas flight I see is on the 16th from what I can tell. I'll keep eyeballing their schedule, but might be slum-dog millionairing it outta here on the ID90 again if Kalitta isn't an option.
K4 uses the FDAR system to verify international flights. Cass does not work internationally. Delta does not participate in this program. I can be completely wrong when I write this but I think I am right...... The issue is as simple as Delta supplying a contact number that K4 can use to verify a pilots employment when the jump seat is requested. I am not on the JS committee so I may be wrong. I just checked the latest revision and see that United and UPS are the only Majors on there.

Anybody in the CASS system is on our domestic list

APPROVED AIR CARRIERS - FDAR PROGRAM (INTERNATIONAL)

AIR CARRIER AIR CARRIER AIR CARRIER

AAHW (Atlas and Polar Air) Everts Air PSA Airlines

ABX Air Frontier Airlines Republic Airlines

Air Cargo Carriers Go-Jet Scenic Mountain Air

Air Net Hawaiian Shuttle America Airlines

Alaska Airlines Inter Island Airways, Inc. Silver Airways (formerly Gulfstream International Airlines)

Alaska Central Express Island Air Sky Way Enterprises, Inc

Allegiant Air Jet Blue Airways Skylease

Aloha Air Cargo Kalitta Charters II Skywest Airlines

Arctic Circle Air (now Era Alaska, subsidiary of Frontier Alaska Group) Mesa Southwest Airlines

ATI Miami Air International (LL) Spirit Airlines

Bearing Air (8E) Mokulele Airlines United Airlines

Chautauqua Airlines (RP) (subsidiary of Republic Airways Holdings) NetJets Aviation, Inc. UPS

CommutAir Northern Air Cargo USA Jet

Compass Airline (CP) Omni International Virgin America

Corporate Air PenAir

Endeavor Air (formerly Pinnacle (9E) Piedmont Airlines

Era Aviation (subsidiary of Frontier Alaska Group) Pinnacle Airlines
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HTBH - Ckeck your PM's

Atlas Flt on the 16 is DEL/HKG/ANC/HSV.
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I knew UPS and FedEx's policy specifically says domestic flights only, but looking at the ALPA site for jumpseating I don't see the domestic restriction listed there. Where are you seeing it is for domestic only flights?
Maxjet beat me to it, but our GOM has a list of CASS approved airlines who can jumpseat on us domestic and a list of FDAR approved airlines who can jumpseat on us international. Recommend you talk to your jumpseat committee, cause it sounds like a simple paperwork exercise to get Delta FDAR approved.
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Maxjet beat me to it, but our GOM has a list of CASS approved airlines who can jumpseat on us domestic and a list of FDAR approved airlines who can jumpseat on us international. Recommend you talk to your jumpseat committee, cause it sounds like a simple paperwork exercise to get Delta FDAR approved.
Thanks to everyone for all the info. I'll play the game a bit and send an email to the jumpseat guys in hopes something can be done. Lots of options out of New Delhi with the ID90 and worst case I buy a ticket. At worst it's an interesting exercise in finding out how all the int'l jumpseat stuff works. At best it's a ride in the top of a 747 vs groveling to get a middle seat in economy outta here.

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