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Old 05-27-2018, 05:23 AM
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It definitely helps to have no expectations. For the past 50 years pilot jobs have been somewhat the same, but with the recent advances in technology I think the risk/reward ratio will get worse for pilots. You can already see the negative impact that the strive toward 100% efficiency is having. I'm talking about looking at the big picture and not just taking a snapshot of the last decade. Most other fields are in the same predicament however.

When you are planning to go into any profession you have to analyze the risk/reward ratio and see if it makes sense.

The great thing about US pilot rules versus ICAO rules is we can take a couple years off and come back like nothing happened, versus ICAO where you would lose your certificates.
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Old 05-27-2018, 08:13 AM
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The USA is an ICAO state.

That statement on your pilot certificate about English proficiency? That's ICAO compliance.
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Old 05-27-2018, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
I'm confident most people from those types of places don't know any better about the world that exists outside of those types of places. Living in an overpriced, filthy, dangerous, cold, confined, statist, horizonless, s-hole when much better alternatives exist is not rational for most, without external factors.
Wow. Maybe because people prefer cities to backward, rural, redneck, racist locales full of fat, uneducated, entitled citizens whose only food choices are fast food and the bowling alley.
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Old 05-27-2018, 10:17 AM
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Wow. Maybe because people prefer cities to backward, rural, redneck, racist locales full of fat, uneducated, entitled citizens whose only food choices are fast food and the bowling alley.
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Old 05-27-2018, 02:39 PM
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Wow. Maybe because people prefer cities to backward, rural, redneck, racist locales full of fat, uneducated, entitled citizens whose only food choices are fast food and the bowling alley.
Interesting that you paint vitriol with such a broad brush. Nice job insulting most of the country.

I was just chatting with an acquaintance not far from here; he lives in the city, has access to movies and entertainment, any kind of food one could think of, is far from racist, is hardly overweight, not at all entitled, has a degree, and manages to own his home on a regional captain's salary. He's about ten years into his career. Beautiful wife & kids.

Inexplicably, he's doing it on under three hundred grand. How could this be?
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Old 05-28-2018, 09:21 AM
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That IS inexplicable! He must be a genius. NOT.

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Old 05-29-2018, 12:39 AM
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That IS inexplicable! He must be a genius. NOT.

Perhaps it's because he doesn't bowl.

More income for life in general. Thank god he's free of pernicious bowling leagues. One can only imagine how his life might have turned out.
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Old 05-31-2018, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by NatGeo View Post
It definitely helps to have no expectations.
Careful. Thin line between no expectations and no goals. Good things happen to people who make it happen, and it helps to have a target.
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Old 05-31-2018, 10:40 AM
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I expect to have good equipment to fly with good maintenance.

I expect to have the necessary tools to do the job.

I expect that paychecks will be on time, as agreed, and won't bounce.

I expect honesty.

Those expectations have been violated at one time or another, and in each case I've picked up my ball and moved to the next court.
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Old 07-16-2018, 01:31 PM
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Hey at least you fly jets and aren't addicted to whirly birds. Those pay-scales, schedules, locations, and career outlooks will make you cringe.

As far as pay goes, if I can make it to $150,000 a year with a good schedule I will be exceeding my expectations at the start of this aviation journey. Anything beyond that I'll be living a dream.

In the mean time while I make this transition, my wife works and is picking up my slack. We'll cut back what we have to in terms of lifestyle, and while we haven't been frugal we've tried to make wise life choices.

My small family is living very comfortably near Seattle on $100,000 a year with plenty of wiggle room to keep a roof over our heads. Few people I know my age are making what we make and they seem to be very comfortable also.

My blocks are all checked and I can uncheck quite a few of them and still be perfectly happy. Do I sometimes wish I had a M-F 9-5 job? Sure, just about every weekend my friends and family are out on their boats or camping in the hills and I'm off to work. But whatever. It's still better than my life was in the Army!

Also, I've lived in rural America as well as urban America. Anyone calling Seattle a ****-hole must be using some interesting metrics.
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