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USMCFLYR 11-15-2011 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY (Post 1085801)
Not quite and like I said in another post it's a pipedream and always will be ,I,m sure a certain LOT crew and their pax would agree.
There's good and bad in every profession and this one is no different in regards to those who get in and find out that it's not what they expected ,but to disparage those who have put the time in and weathered the good with the bad does a disservice to those who are actually trying to make this career work for them even if at times it gets to the point of frustration.
And Sky I,m not even going to get into what you posted about those who answer a calling and serve a purpose other than self.
I,ve said this before and I,ll probably say it again -In life your only here for as long as necessary so make it count.

Well you should. He seems to think that I am the only one who sees his statements for what they are; and I guarantee that I am in the silent majority.
Let's see if I'm the only one if he posted that quote over in the military forum for example. :rolleyes:

USMCFLYR

DeadHead 11-16-2011 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by GoPats (Post 1085533)
DeadHead, the question is though "would you encourage them to get into aviation?". There's a difference there. It's one thing to discuss all possibilities with someone who more or less has their mind made up and is simply looking for some guidance and insight and it's another to guide someone, who isn't sure about career tracks, towards aviation.

My opinion is that I wouldn't go out of my way to encourage, or discourage, someone from pursuing a career path of their choosing. There is no cookie-cutter approach to pursuing a career in aviation that will, for all intensive purposes, guarantee a long, prosperous, and financial stable career progression.
Everyone experiences a different career progression, some are successful, and some are not, but to quantify your experience as being the absolute end all someone starting out in this industry is misleading regardless of your standpoint.

To answer your question, if a family member/friend came to me and asked if I recommended a career in aviation I would outline all the pros and cons while offering a caveat of caution to do it for the right reasons. If the individual still was passionate about flying, I would support and advise them in any which way I could. I would also be utterly blunt and honest with how quickly things can change in this industry.

Backup plans, and supplementing your income is a must!



To sum it up, "If you love what you do for a living, you'll never work a day in your life."
Just be realistic with yourself, and plan ahead.

DeadHead 11-16-2011 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1085835)
Well you should. He seems to think that I am the only one who sees his statements for what they are; and I guarantee that I am in the silent majority.
Let's see if I'm the only one if he posted that quote over in the military forum for example. :rolleyes:

USMCFLYR

Personally, I think most just ignore him.

I think it's pretty pathetic that he tries to trivialize other peoples' achievements or aspirations based on his particular life experience.
But hey....If it helps him sleep at night.:)

DYNASTY HVY 11-16-2011 05:12 AM


Originally Posted by USMCFLYR (Post 1085835)
Well you should. He seems to think that I am the only one who sees his statements for what they are; and I guarantee that I am in the silent majority.
Let's see if I'm the only one if he posted that quote over in the military forum for example. :rolleyes:

USMCFLYR

I wonder what kind of reaction there would be if Sky posted that on the BaseOps site ?:D
I see far more narcissism in civilians than I ever have in those who serve or have served, and unit cohesion is a must especialy during military engagements .
They may not like the ROE of the past 10 years but they move forward and get the job done and anything less just makes the task at hand more difficult .
Individualism is fine ,but in the field when you depend on each other it can end with disastrous results .
Sociopaths ?Nope don't buy that one for a second considering that those who serve put self aside to serve the greater good no matter what the cost.

Ski Patrol 11-16-2011 05:31 AM

Geez people lighten up already.

The industry is in the crapper right now for the avg pilot that's all.

Rnav 11-16-2011 05:54 AM

I give Sky's view points of the industry this much. For those that leave it willingly or not you might end up extremely bitter toward it. Seriously Sky its ok to criticize this f'd up industry, but at some point your going to have to give some people credit for actually being succesful and happy with their career choice in it.

Besides name any company or job in or out of aviation where the admid or CEO's actually treat employees with any respect. There are no perfect careers in my opinion.

HotMamaPilot 11-16-2011 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Rnav (Post 1085912)
I give Sky's view points of the industry this much. For those that leave it willingly or not you might end up extremely bitter toward it. Seriously Sky its ok to criticize this f'd up industry, but at some point your going to have to give some people credit for actually being succesful and happy with their career choice in it.

Besides name any company or job in or out of aviation where the admid or CEO's actually treat employees with any respect. There are no perfect careers in my opinion.

I have two brothers in tv media/broadcast and both are happy as clams. Make well into 6 figures; yes they travel, but are pampered and taken well care of by the company. Neither are railroaded into a payscale that does NOTHING for individuals who stand out above the rest. In short, they are rewarded for their hardwork.

HotMamaPilot 11-16-2011 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1085878)
Personally, I think most just ignore him.

I think it's pretty pathetic that he tries to trivialize other peoples' achievements or aspirations based on his particular life experience.
But hey....If it helps him sleep at night.:)


Just what sort of achievements are we talking about here? A commercial license, ATP? ANYONE can obtain these, ANYONE with enough money.
Aspirations? Well, I think that this fits into the mold that SKYHIGH mentions of people "living out" their childhood "dreams"; hence living life in peter pan syndrome.

NTT5418 11-17-2011 07:28 PM

I love internet banter....I can't believe I just read through 11 pages of this :p

My take: The industry sucks, and I really don't want to become a part of it now. But I don't criticize people who want to enter the field or have already entered it. People are smart enough to make their own decisions.

HotMamaPilot 11-18-2011 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by NTT5418 (Post 1087096)
I love internet banter....I can't believe I just read through 11 pages of this :p

My take: The industry sucks, and I really don't want to become a part of it now. But I don't criticize people who want to enter the field or have already entered it. People are smart enough to make their own decisions.

This is an internet forum. I think that criticism is warranted. It may help one in the long run. As for you not being critical of others, good for you! I guess that you are worthy of casting the first stone ...


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