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Old 09-30-2022, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by apex7 View Post
Does anyone have a link to some information on what you actually do at this job? I realize there's a lot of different departments etc. But lets say your hired as an entry level ASI for an air carrier division. What do you do? There's job postings but its very vague and I want more information on the tasks and a day to day life. If someone can point me in the right direction or send me a DM I would appreciate that.
The first year, a whole lotta sitting in the office, reading…. Seriously it takes at least a year to even start to figure out the job. Meanwhile, lots more training. Mostly self-paced CBTs. A ****-ton! And then you get even more training…. Like How to write up a good enforcement case. And then even more training on computer applications like the dreaded “SAS” which you will learn is the “tool” of tools to keep you chained literally to your desk. Actually going out in the field is the easy part. However it will take a month of Sunday’s to document what you just did in that few hours of observing whatever it was that you even forgot why you left the office for the day in the first place, because you end up daydreaming and wishing you had never left that cush flying gig, HA... If you are good with typing lots of narratives and savvy on computers, and like to be home just about every nite, its a decent gig once you find your niche and get thru the grind of the probationary year. Research APM Position, AEG work, and 142 FTPM or TCPM work. Those gigs will keep you in and around airplanes, airline or corporate/135 pilots and sims. GL, and YMMV…
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Old 11-16-2022, 06:28 PM
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This is a very accurate description. On the positive side, since there is for the most part no urgency to get things done and managers are exceedingly careful to not push or give negative criticism. The result in a pleasant workplace.
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Old 11-17-2022, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by DrainTheSwamp View Post
This is a very accurate description. On the positive side, since there is for the most part no urgency to get things done and managers are exceedingly careful to not push or give negative criticism. The result in a pleasant workplace.
Sounds like some in common with the company Elon bought. But government agencies do not give complimentary lunches.
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Old 01-10-2023, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PerfInit View Post
The first year, a whole lotta sitting in the office, reading…. Seriously it takes at least a year to even start to figure out the job. Meanwhile, lots more training. Mostly self-paced CBTs. A ****-ton! And then you get even more training…. Like How to write up a good enforcement case. And then even more training on computer applications like the dreaded “SAS” which you will learn is the “tool” of tools to keep you chained literally to your desk.
About how much of the first year is spent away from home? Is the agency still doing teleworking for new hires?

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Old 01-11-2023, 02:21 AM
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About how much of the first year is spent away from home? Is the agency still doing teleworking for new hires?

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Pre Covid you went to OKC for months son end for your initial training.
During Covid you did all of your initial training online from your home.
Right now initial training is being done with a hybrid system between the two. You'll go to OKC for a few weeks and do a couple of classes that work better in-person. Then you'll come home for a while and do some classes that work well online before going back to OKC for more in-person learning. It looks like about 3 months total of having to be in OKC these days versus the old system of having to be there for 8-9 months.

When you're not in class you'll need to be in the office or at an operator doing surveillance for at least 2 days during every 2 week pay period.
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Old 01-11-2023, 04:46 AM
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But government agencies do not give complimentary lunches.
A few do, but more importantly, where else in the aviation world includes as a component of the vacancy announcement a stipulation that the applicant can't have more than two aircraft accidents in the past few years, for which the applicant was the cause? It literally takes the unhireable and makes them marketable...to oversee your career.
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Old 02-05-2023, 03:43 AM
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How long after the tentative offer letter before a formal offer and start date? I've heard 5 to 6 months from one FSDO manager, and "it depends" but could be sooner from another. For those already in the job, how long did your background check, drug testing, and flight check take?
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Old 02-06-2023, 01:45 PM
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It depends on many factors. 1. Do you need a pre-employment check or do you have an acceptable industry check. Not having to take a pre-employment check shaves off a lot of time. 2. How long does it take you to fill out your e-QIP paperwork and get fingerprinted. Most security delays are due to applicants not completing their paperwork quickly. 3. Once your security paperwork is in, do you require a full OPM check. (Most don't but if you do, it can take 6-9 months). 4. How long does it take for your future manager to do reference checks. The entire process can vary between a few weeks and a few months.
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Old 02-06-2023, 04:15 PM
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How long does it take you to fill out your e-QIP paperwork and get fingerprinted. Most security delays are due to applicants not completing their paperwork quickly.
Do ASIs get security clearances or is it just a background check?
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Old 02-08-2023, 10:20 AM
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They don't have it when they first on board. The new hires are brought on board with a temporary security waiver until their full OPM investigation is completed which can take any where from 6 months to a year. If anything is found during that full investigation that is bad, then the new hire is terminated. The clearance is a sensitivity code 5 which is considered moderate risk.

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