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Old 11-02-2014, 06:44 PM
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No one should be offended or otherwise upset by this thread. You should be thankful that someone has the temerity to inject a hard cold dose of reality into the occupation we all call the "Dream".

If your beliefs are rattled by what this person states, then that indicates something about the strength of your own convictions.
The men and women who make their living with professional flying give all the "hard dose" of realities required on this forum.

How would countering Sky's half truths, exaggerations, insults, and flat out lies dictate one's convictions to the profession?

If you believe the same as SkyHigh spouts, at least to the same insane degree, maybe it says something about your convictions to the profession and your need to make sense of your worth in the industry.
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Old 11-02-2014, 08:09 PM
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Finally out....lol after ten years of applying....and trying and repeating again....finally got a government job with the state working in the department of transportation. Gonna love that pension.
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Old 11-03-2014, 05:21 AM
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AKBUSH: Congrats! Persistence and patience paid off for you! I sympathize as it took me 5 years for a similar Position.

SKYHIGH: Ever watched the Disney movie "Frozen"? Just my opinion, but it is long overdue for you to heed the advice given in the theme song of that movie.
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Old 11-03-2014, 06:01 AM
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Finally out....lol after ten years of applying....and trying and repeating again....finally got a government job with the state working in the department of transportation. Gonna love that pension.
Congrats Akbush!
What exactly is the job and what will you be doing?
Can you share the details?
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Old 11-03-2014, 07:33 AM
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Finally out....lol after ten years of applying....and trying and repeating again....finally got a government job with the state working in the department of transportation. Gonna love that pension.
Congrats but anyone hitching their retirement wagon to any pension anywhere hasn't been paying attentions or the last decade. I and a lot of my comrades have zero faith that our military retirement will be there when it's time to collect, I would plan for the same. If it is there, then you'll have beer/cigarette money.
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Old 11-03-2014, 11:14 AM
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Prior to flying I worked for almost ten years in emergency medical services and firefighting. I should have never given that up frankly. We all make dumb decisions from time to time. This is in the emergency management division doing similar work. When I saw the job posting I laughed and filled the application out. I thought yeah what ever I won't hear anything. I was sure wrong. I only flew professionally about 4 years....guess being an airline pilot was more of a bucket list thing. I'm happy being a weekend warrior in a Cessna 172 again.
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Old 11-03-2014, 11:17 AM
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Congrats but anyone hitching their retirement wagon to any pension anywhere hasn't been paying attentions or the last decade. I and a lot of my comrades have zero faith that our military retirement will be there when it's time to collect, I would plan for the same. If it is there, then you'll have beer/cigarette money.
The military gets shafted....most local govt positions pay much better than what you poor guys get.
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Old 11-26-2014, 08:39 AM
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It is hard to be a lone oracle all these years. A solitary embedded voice in the mass delusion of blind ambition. It is nice that others are starting to take up the banner. Even ALPA is getting the message.

Automation, advances in training, and standardization has reduced our skills and abilities as pilots to a commodity that is easily acquired in short duration and franchise-able to foreign nations. A few years ago in America a pilot could go from zero to regional right-seat hero in as little as six months. Foreign nations are taking up the banner and are gearing up to mass produce cheap pilots. Open skies will change our industry into one that will make it so that third world factory trained pilots will flood the global market.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJCjHS0KQdc

ALPA is pushing back against the advancement of the inevitable, and they may succeed for a while, but we all know how effective they were against the union busting efforts of the legacy airlines. Capitalism is relentless. Airlines provide a fairly homogeneous product, the primary means of competition is through reducing costs. Fuel, planes, and gates are largely equivalently priced. What is flexible is the cost of labor and management will find a way to perpetually inch wages lower. Our profession is heading only in one direction and it it obvious to those with the perspective to recognize it. The day is nearing when contracted foreign nationals will pilot domestic flights within our borders and take their meager wages back to their third world economies to great advantage. Not every airline will do this but every airline will be effected by it.

If you are over 50 then you most likely are in the clear. In a decade when looking back all this will seem obvious. The writing is on the wall.

Also see: "China Airborne" by James Fallows. It chronicles China's plans for global aviation dominance.

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Old 11-26-2014, 08:55 AM
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So you're an oracle now? Thanks for saving me from myself.

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Old 11-26-2014, 09:26 AM
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So you're an oracle now? Thanks for saving me from myself.
My pleasure buddy ! My aim is to help.

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