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Old 02-21-2016, 11:50 PM   #11  
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What ATPCliff said. Is it flying, flying for a job, or the segment of industry you are in? Once you figure that out, you can move forward.

There's also nothing wrong with taking a break from flying. You can always go back.


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I love flying but not as a job. As you stated taking a break isn't a bad thing, although i don't see myself coming back, i know this to be true. i will not leave on bad terms. Something i am having trouble telling my parents tho..
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As someone who left pretty early in and currently working 8-5 in an office: If you feel you have to leave, do it, but leave the door open on your way out. In other words, don't burn any bridges and try to get a few hundred hours logged. That way, if you ever do decide to come back, you'll have a little bit of a leg to stand on and something to compare your non-flying job to.

Edit: Also, if you're still young, going into an office job for a few years isn't such a bad thing either. You'll either decide you prefer that or decide to go back into flying with a new perspective you can't get any other way. That could ultimately help your satisfaction to have a longer aviation career than if you just try to slog it out now. I think another career is good thing to have so you have enoough control over your life to say "no" when aviation employers treat you like crap or try to get you to do something unsafe/illegal.

I completely agree with what you said. do you mind sharing how you left and how you got an office gig?
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Old 02-22-2016, 10:50 AM   #13  
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I completely agree with what you said. do you mind sharing how you left and how you got an office gig?
Well my office job is an IT support role so that's probably going to be a lot different than sales. I had to get a super easy certification to get my foot in the door at the hell desk (known to users as the helpdesk) and just worked my way up from there. Lots of IT shops don't require degrees but work experience is really valued. I've always been good at troubleshooting computers so it made sense to me but it would probably be a brutal existence to people that don't care how their computers or logic works.
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Old 02-23-2016, 06:06 AM   #14  
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So what is it about flying that you don't like?

Is it the time away from home, the time away from family, missing every important event, the constant nights is a hotel, the lack of home cooked meals, dragging that damn bag behind you every where you go, the super structured work environment, the endless medical checkups, the endless proficiency checks, the stressfull work days, flying in terrible weather, the fact that you operate multi-million dollar equipment....for low pay, the early wake ups, the late nights, the lack of a schedule, the problem keeping you body clock on a schedule.........
I have to stop now, i am about to quit.

All joking aside, what is it?
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Old 02-23-2016, 09:30 AM   #15  
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So what is it about flying that you don't like?

Is it the time away from home, the time away from family, missing every important event, the constant nights is a hotel, the lack of home cooked meals, dragging that damn bag behind you every where you go, the super structured work environment, the endless medical checkups, the endless proficiency checks, the stressfull work days, flying in terrible weather, the fact that you operate multi-million dollar equipment....for low pay, the early wake ups, the late nights, the lack of a schedule, the problem keeping you body clock on a schedule.........
I have to stop now, i am about to quit.

All joking aside, what is it?
You might be joking but all those things suck; plus the other problems that werent mentioned. I have trouble explaining to people why, thats part of the reason I asked this question. I have trouble really deciding on one reason. however with every reason i see people judging me.

although i have trouble explaining it i will try...

Out of those reasons one of the strongest reasons is the proficiency checks. Early into the career, I have trouble remembering all the basics, nvm all the stuff i still need to learn. Honestly I just come to terms that I cant make it in this career. I am tired of people saying things like well you should never give up on your dreams, you can do it if you keep trying.

I love flying but as a career its too stressful for me. I realize every career has stress, however this type of stress is different. I respect everyone who loves this career and can do it.

Right now I am working at a company that even if i where to continue in this career I could not work at; even if i need the hours. My parents don't understand i cant fly while in these conditions just for the hours. I understand that its part of the career to pay your dues, fly under stress, fly well not happy. however i see it as unsafe practice, especially in my case. being sad and stressed leads to distracted flying. I don't want it now and i don't want to continue in the career if i am prone to being stressed at this level.

plus a bunch of stuff... i am going crazy but i have been thinking about this for long enough, and my decision to quit/take a break is final. no one is going to convince otherwise, but know people will try.
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Old 02-23-2016, 05:40 PM   #16  
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If its not for you, its not for you.

Don't fly because someone else thinks you should.

There are so many other careers out there so go find another way to make money.

If you are miserable then that is not good for anybody and hopefully your parents will understand but moving to a respectable line of work with an adequate income will help.
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If you don't want to do it, don't do it.

Problem solved.
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Old 02-24-2016, 05:59 AM   #18  
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You might be joking but all those things suck; plus the other problems that werent mentioned. I have trouble explaining to people why, thats part of the reason I asked this question. I have trouble really deciding on one reason. however with every reason i see people judging me.

although i have trouble explaining it i will try...

Out of those reasons one of the strongest reasons is the proficiency checks. Early into the career, I have trouble remembering all the basics, nvm all the stuff i still need to learn. Honestly I just come to terms that I cant make it in this career. I am tired of people saying things like well you should never give up on your dreams, you can do it if you keep trying.

I love flying but as a career its too stressful for me. I realize every career has stress, however this type of stress is different. I respect everyone who loves this career and can do it.

Right now I am working at a company that even if i where to continue in this career I could not work at; even if i need the hours. My parents don't understand i cant fly while in these conditions just for the hours. I understand that its part of the career to pay your dues, fly under stress, fly well not happy. however i see it as unsafe practice, especially in my case. being sad and stressed leads to distracted flying. I don't want it now and i don't want to continue in the career if i am prone to being stressed at this level.

plus a bunch of stuff... i am going crazy but i have been thinking about this for long enough, and my decision to quit/take a break is final. no one is going to convince otherwise, but know people will try.
That is as good a reason as I have ever seen for changing jobs. You should do something else with your life and enjoy GA flying on the side. Flying as a profession is not for everyone. Good luck.
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Where else are you going to find a 6 figure job that pays you to stare out a window?
We are our own worse enemy.
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I'm back into aviation for the 3rd time. I did and loved sales for years, got older and bad economy put me on the street. Look at a corporate flying job near home, or aircraft sales, or something with BAE/PPG or the like.
Its harder out there than you think, and not everyone gets to do what they're passionate about. A more local job or one with more time off might be better, seek a Leave of Absents if you can and test out your plans.
Best of luck.
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