Narrow to wide requirements for your airline
03-14-2017, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
How is flying a Widebody any different than flying a Narrowbody?
03-14-2017, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Just a different theater of operation. Narrowbody here means most likely limited to North America and the Islands. Widebody can be domestic, but opens the doors to Europe, Asia, and South America. Some operational differences but otherwise and airplane is an airplane.
There is nothing about flying the 787 that requires super pilot skills.
03-14-2017, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
an airplane is an airplane. Thats what I was getting at theater operation is just training and studying.
There is nothing about flying the 787 that requires super pilot skills.
There is nothing about flying the 787 that requires super pilot skills.
But a county/airline/regulating authority is not the same as a country/airline/regulating authority.
Especially the ones that think they invented the airplane and how to fly it.
03-14-2017, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
How is flying a Widebody any different than flying a Narrowbody?
Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
an airplane is an airplane. Thats what I was getting at theater operation is just training and studying.
There is nothing about flying the 787 that requires super pilot skills.
There is nothing about flying the 787 that requires super pilot skills.
I suspect the reason for the hours requirement at "your middle east airline" has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with economics and pilot demand. Basically, everyone who goes there wants to fly a heavy. They could never staff the NB otherwise.
03-14-2017, 08:37 AM
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I suspect the reason for the hours requirement at EK has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with economics and pilot demand. Basically, everyone who goes there wants to fly a heavy. They could never staff the NB otherwise.
EK only has widebodies
03-14-2017, 01:03 PM
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Shyguy.....
You almost sound like you were there at one time like me!! That's exactly the mentality of the place. Pure Robots.
Left seater put both hands on the yoke after hitting TOGA not realizing the thrust levers didn't increase. And yep... still have something like 2700 meters to land.
Sorry for the thread drift. The End!
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You almost sound like you were there at one time like me!! That's exactly the mentality of the place. Pure Robots.
Left seater put both hands on the yoke after hitting TOGA not realizing the thrust levers didn't increase. And yep... still have something like 2700 meters to land.
Sorry for the thread drift. The End!
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Sad. And IIRC from the prelim report of the EK incident at DXB, they touched the G/A button and just assumed it would power up, pulled up to a go around attitude and raised the gear. Weight on wheels at touchdown took away the automatic power increase to the GA detent, and without following it up with the hands manually, the rest was history. Another robot mentality was going around in the first place because of the "long landing" auto callout. 3,000 feet used up in DXB still gave them over 10,000 feet to stop on a dry runway. Then again I read that EK is draconian and would have called those pilots in for a carpet dance if the "long landing" warning went off and they continued the landing.
Robotic operation with a hint of draconian practices in management
Robotic operation with a hint of draconian practices in management
03-14-2017, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by popcorn
An airplane is an airplane. The A330 is almost the same as the A320 operational wise. Why does everyone make such a big deal out of "ocean crossings". We aren't talking about Connies here anymore, but so many pilots are still in that mindset. The plane doesn't really care what you're flying over and anyone can be trained to make position reports and use HF.
I suspect the reason for the hours requirement at "your middle east airline" has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with economics and pilot demand. Basically, everyone who goes there wants to fly a heavy. They could never staff the NB otherwise.
I suspect the reason for the hours requirement at "your middle east airline" has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with economics and pilot demand. Basically, everyone who goes there wants to fly a heavy. They could never staff the NB otherwise.
None of it is rocket science, but having this experience makes it easier for an employer to reduce training time.
03-14-2017, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
Ocean crossings entail entirely new set of skills, such as HF radios, CPDLC, plotting, coast out checks, class 2 navigation, and a realization of the importance of transition levels and altitudes. Things that a domestic guy doesn't even know exist.
None of it is rocket science, but having this experience makes it easier for an employer to reduce training time.
None of it is rocket science, but having this experience makes it easier for an employer to reduce training time.
"popcorn" seems to demonstrate the same lack of situational awareness as demonstrated on the FFDO thread. She sounds like she has the minimum Airbus standards met though. She has that going for her, I guess.
03-15-2017, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
Ocean crossings entail entirely new set of skills, such as HF radios, CPDLC, plotting, coast out checks, class 2 navigation, and a realization of the importance of transition levels and altitudes. Things that a domestic guy doesn't even know exist.
None of it is rocket science, but having this experience makes it easier for an employer to reduce training time.
None of it is rocket science, but having this experience makes it easier for an employer to reduce training time.
Give me a break! Skills??????
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