Spirit lost a good guy yesterday
03-17-2017, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Poppachubby
I'm sorry, but I have to agree with airmic on this one. Yes, my understanding of addiction is limited. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what habits in life are addicting. Just don't start! I don't even drink coffee! But I sure as hell would never stick a frickin needle in my arm! Yes the situation is very tragic and I truly feel bad for the kids. But at the same time that is what angers me the most. As a parent I get sick of how many people today shirk their responsibilities to their kids in place of their own selfish desires. Having kids is a huge endeavor that to many people take way to lightly. You could say my own life ended when I had my kids because it's all about them now. If you want to continue to party like a rockstar, party on! But maybe kids shouldn't be in the picture for you.
03-17-2017, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Poppachubby
I'm sorry, but I have to agree with airmic on this one. Yes, my understanding of addiction is limited. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what habits in life are addicting. Just don't start! I don't even drink coffee! But I sure as hell would never stick a frickin needle in my arm! Yes the situation is very tragic and I truly feel bad for the kids. But at the same time that is what angers me the most. As a parent I get sick of how many people today shirk their responsibilities to their kids in place of their own selfish desires. Having kids is a huge endeavor that to many people take way to lightly. You could say my own life ended when I had my kids because it's all about them now. If you want to continue to party like a rockstar, party on! But maybe kids shouldn't be in the picture for you.
03-17-2017, 08:27 AM
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For those that do want more info on addiction check out the HIMS website. They ( addiction specialist) estimate that 10% of people suffer from addiction. That might not seem like alot, but that is basically 1 in 10 people. Tell me someone that doesn't know at least 10 people, or have over 10 family memebers. So you have probably had a friend, colleague or family member that has suffered from this disease. Also if you have kids it would be good to educate yourself as well because percentages say that your kids, or one of their friends they know in school will suffer from this disease.
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03-17-2017, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Poppachubby
I'm sorry, but I have to agree with airmic on this one. Yes, my understanding of addiction is limited. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what habits in life are addicting. Just don't start! I don't even drink coffee! But I sure as hell would never stick a frickin needle in my arm! Yes the situation is very tragic and I truly feel bad for the kids. But at the same time that is what angers me the most. As a parent I get sick of how many people today shirk their responsibilities to their kids in place of their own selfish desires. Having kids is a huge endeavor that to many people take way to lightly. You could say my own life ended when I had my kids because it's all about them now. If you want to continue to party like a rockstar, party on! But maybe kids shouldn't be in the picture for you.
03-17-2017, 08:45 AM
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These nasty drugs are all over the place and this profession isn't immune. Hospital staff have a major issue with these drugs. This is another case of it can happen to ANYONE! If you don't think it can happen to you go watch the 30 for 30 on Chris Herren. Very said! RIP!
03-17-2017, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Brian and I went through upgrade at Pinnacle together. Hilarious guy, always fun to be around, and a fantastic pilot. RIP, brother. You will be missed.
Very very tragic- pray for their family at the least, and reach out to help if you can.
Centerville deaths of Spirit Airlines pilot, wife, fentanyl-related
Very very tragic- pray for their family at the least, and reach out to help if you can.
Centerville deaths of Spirit Airlines pilot, wife, fentanyl-related
80ktsClamp.
Thank you for posting something positive in the midst of a terrible tragedy for the children.
I expect that SPA MEC will post in the near future how to help for anyone interested.
03-17-2017, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by DickBurns
Maybe you should read up on it if you're understanding is limited before you pipe up.
May they rest in peace.
03-17-2017, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Poppachubby
I don't know how that would change anything. This could be my own brother and I'd still feel the same. This may sound a little simplistic, yet serious question: if you simply refuse to"partake", how will you ever get this "addiction" disease? Listen, my intent is not to trash this guy. Maybe it's a little "to soon". I didn't know the guy but I'm sure he was a good dude. I probably could work on my understanding a little better yet matters that involve kids are very sensitive to me. The idea of two parents shooting up in the bedroom with kids outside is just to unbelievable to comprehend.
May they rest in peace.
May they rest in peace.
Enjoy your life of zero temptations as you live in your bubble
03-17-2017, 09:26 AM
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Hate to hear this. Sorry for your loss!
This right here! If you've never seen it happen, it's hard to believe. The legal opioids being used today are being handed out like candy and they're extremely addictive. Like has been said, do a little research and talk to your HIMS folks about it...it's pretty eye opening. People need to know they won't necessarily lose their job if they come forward and get help. Our HIMS program has put more than a few guys back to work after seeking help. I'm just glad they realized it before it was too late.
A good friend of mind is a life flight pilot, and he says it's a freaking epidemic. Lots of dead teens, and the middle to upper class are not immune.
If you have kids and they get prescribed pain meds, watch them closely!
High School Sports Pose High Risk For Injury ? And Opioid Painkiller Addiction | RiverMend Health - Addiction Evaluation, Treatment, Recovery & Rehabilitation
Why Suburban Teens Are Most At Risk For Heroin Use
Originally Posted by Macjet
I took a hard look down the abyss of opioid addiction after using prescribed pain medication following surgery for a very, very brief time. I never stuck a needle in my arm, I never snorted anything, and I never rolled anything but yet still flirted with an opiate using lawfully prescribed medication as a medical necessity. I was shocked at how quickly my body needed that drug after even very limited use. Be very, very careful casting the first stones.
A good friend of mind is a life flight pilot, and he says it's a freaking epidemic. Lots of dead teens, and the middle to upper class are not immune.
If you have kids and they get prescribed pain meds, watch them closely!
High School Sports Pose High Risk For Injury ? And Opioid Painkiller Addiction | RiverMend Health - Addiction Evaluation, Treatment, Recovery & Rehabilitation
Why Suburban Teens Are Most At Risk For Heroin Use
03-17-2017, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
She obviously had a history and her ex died of an overdose 10 years ago. He may have not had a problem.
While none of it makes sense, that might make (more) sense than any other horrific possibilities.
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