What is the hiring number numerator?
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What is the hiring number numerator?
So, we hear about pilot shortages...what is the actual number of pilots looking for jobs at a major vs. number of open billets to be filled?
Has anyone ever heard an actual number, as in considered current, qualified and competitive for the process? The last real number I've heard was from a source at Alaska, who I would deem had access to the information, that the number had ranged from 1500 4 years ago to 1000 or so, two years ago.
Obviously, since the qualifications by airline vary, the qualifications that make you most competitive vary so much, not every applicant applies for every position, etc., the equation would have lots slop baked into the pie from the start.
So, any estimates ranging from the known number of applications on file to a semi-educated guess?
Has anyone ever heard an actual number, as in considered current, qualified and competitive for the process? The last real number I've heard was from a source at Alaska, who I would deem had access to the information, that the number had ranged from 1500 4 years ago to 1000 or so, two years ago.
Obviously, since the qualifications by airline vary, the qualifications that make you most competitive vary so much, not every applicant applies for every position, etc., the equation would have lots slop baked into the pie from the start.
So, any estimates ranging from the known number of applications on file to a semi-educated guess?
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So, we hear about pilot shortages...what is the actual number of pilots looking for jobs at a major vs. number of open billets to be filled?
Has anyone ever heard an actual number, as in considered current, qualified and competitive for the process? The last real number I've heard was from a source at Alaska, who I would deem had access to the information, that the number had ranged from 1500 4 years ago to 1000 or so, two years ago.
Obviously, since the qualifications by airline vary, the qualifications that make you most competitive vary so much, not every applicant applies for every position, etc., the equation would have lots slop baked into the pie from the start.
So, any estimates ranging from the known number of applications on file to a semi-educated guess?
Has anyone ever heard an actual number, as in considered current, qualified and competitive for the process? The last real number I've heard was from a source at Alaska, who I would deem had access to the information, that the number had ranged from 1500 4 years ago to 1000 or so, two years ago.
Obviously, since the qualifications by airline vary, the qualifications that make you most competitive vary so much, not every applicant applies for every position, etc., the equation would have lots slop baked into the pie from the start.
So, any estimates ranging from the known number of applications on file to a semi-educated guess?
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Airlines have differing manning strategies that change often, and there are differing strategies for as many different airlines are out there. Since the number of pilots working at a particular airline isn't a fixed number, it is impossible to really positively identify how many particular "open billets" there are on any given day.
So, no, there's not really an understood hard number or ratio outside of the numbers the individual airlines occasionally publicly state they intend to hire this year, and the approximate number of applications the airlines occasionally release that they have on file.
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So, we hear about pilot shortages...what is the actual number of pilots looking for jobs at a major vs. number of open billets to be filled?
Has anyone ever heard an actual number, as in considered current, qualified and competitive for the process? The last real number I've heard was from a source at Alaska, who I would deem had access to the information, that the number had ranged from 1500 4 years ago to 1000 or so, two years ago.
Obviously, since the qualifications by airline vary, the qualifications that make you most competitive vary so much, not every applicant applies for every position, etc., the equation would have lots slop baked into the pie from the start.
So, any estimates ranging from the known number of applications on file to a semi-educated guess?
Has anyone ever heard an actual number, as in considered current, qualified and competitive for the process? The last real number I've heard was from a source at Alaska, who I would deem had access to the information, that the number had ranged from 1500 4 years ago to 1000 or so, two years ago.
Obviously, since the qualifications by airline vary, the qualifications that make you most competitive vary so much, not every applicant applies for every position, etc., the equation would have lots slop baked into the pie from the start.
So, any estimates ranging from the known number of applications on file to a semi-educated guess?
When you consider at SWA they have dropped the 737 type rating requirement and soon they will drop the 1,000 TPIC requirement I believe it indicates a pilot shortage is forming up. Does anyone have any data from their respective company in this regard?
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Everything points to low oil for years to come. It's also in our best interests as a profession and industry that they stay low if only for the fact that it is killing the ME3 and their plans for world domination. If their kingdom's can't pay their bills then they will have to shrink.
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If the regional ranks could afford the pay increases required to activate that shadow inventory, there would be no headlines. It certainly does not absolve mainline from the important hand they play in the odious dynamics of that compensation shortage. Pay your subservient carriers more, or bring your feed in-house and deal with the overhead that way.
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