Delta ends Taipei service
05-24-2017, 05:13 PM
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Delta ends Taipei service
First Bangkok, now this 
Gotta love the code sharing away of good international flying.
Delta Ditches Taiwan, Further Dismantles Narita Hub - Live and Let's Fly
Posted in non-specific forum because this is happening or going to happen to all of the U.S. majors as they continue to code share and alliance share their premium flying to partner airlines.
Gotta love the code sharing away of good international flying.
Delta Ditches Taiwan, Further Dismantles Narita Hub - Live and Let's Fly
Posted in non-specific forum because this is happening or going to happen to all of the U.S. majors as they continue to code share and alliance share their premium flying to partner airlines.
05-25-2017, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Typhoonpilot
First Bangkok, now this
Gotta love the code sharing away of good international flying.
Delta Ditches Taiwan, Further Dismantles Narita Hub - Live and Let's Fly
Posted in non-specific forum because this is happening or going to happen to all of the U.S. majors as they continue to code share and alliance share their premium flying to partner airlines.
Gotta love the code sharing away of good international flying.
Delta Ditches Taiwan, Further Dismantles Narita Hub - Live and Let's Fly
Posted in non-specific forum because this is happening or going to happen to all of the U.S. majors as they continue to code share and alliance share their premium flying to partner airlines.
05-25-2017, 07:16 AM
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This flying makes the argument a little hypocritical. We're against 5th freedom airline flying like Emirates from Hamburg to NY (cancelled), Milan to JFK, and EWR to Athens. But we can operate a hub in Tokyo and fly to all the big Asian cities. That history goes back to post WWII with Northwest, but still, put yourself in a Japanese pilot shoes. Seeing Northwest and United flying (back when) out of NRT to Asian cities would tick them off. Name one foreign airline in the US that operates a mini hub and goes to places besides their own home country; into some major hubs nonstop? None.
05-25-2017, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
This flying makes the argument a little hypocritical. We're against 5th freedom airline flying like Emirates from Hamburg to NY (cancelled), Milan to JFK, and EWR to Athens. But we can operate a hub in Tokyo and fly to all the big Asian cities. That history goes back to post WWII with Northwest, but still, put yourself in a Japanese pilot shoes. Seeing Northwest and United flying (back when) out of NRT to Asian cities would tick them off. Name one foreign airline in the US that operates a mini hub and goes to places besides their own home country; into some major hubs nonstop? None.
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05-25-2017, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by qball
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Iberia in MIA, early 90s going from MAD to connect in South America.
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05-26-2017, 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
When you have to actually make money on a route it's a lot more difficult to keep everything operating. That's especially true in Narita with the Haneda situation. Some airlines don't have to make money. Super easy to expand when profits are not a issue.
So you're saying that they operated for nearly 70 years without making a profit on the route? ............and now that there is huge travel demand from mainland China to Taiwan they can't get some of those passengers onto a PEK-NRT-TPE service to keep it going along with all of the passengers who connect from the USA, which typically fills the flight up anyway?
I guess Delta just can't manage yields like NWA did in the Pacific or something.
Oh, and the other thing Delta did which has decreased demand on their service in Asia is do away with the Shenzhen Shekou ferry terminal check-in. Something NWA did for a long time as well.
MBAs out cost cutting without seeing the big picture. You know, that one that includes a country with a population of 1.3 billion people.
05-26-2017, 06:04 AM
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UAL didn't get there until the late 80s by virtue of buying Pan Am routes and with it came their 5th freedom rights. NWA was there long before that. Japan likely didn't even have (or wasn't allowed) to have an air line back then. The real demise for the Narita hub came with aircraft that didn't need to stop there.
Also, I seem to recall Pan Am and TWA hubbed out of Europe.
Also, I seem to recall Pan Am and TWA hubbed out of Europe.
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