SE Turbine PIC Value at Legacy Carriers
06-04-2017, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
As it's been said before, and even in this hiring climate, the type where you had to strap into an ejection seat is FAR more valuable. It's NOT the mid-late 90's anymore.....
06-04-2017, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
As it's been said before, and even in this hiring climate, the type where you had to strap into an ejection seat is FAR more valuable. It's NOT the mid-late 90's anymore.....
06-04-2017, 02:58 PM
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It's not flying an F-16 that makes the candidate, it's being able to hack the program to be able to fly an F-16 that's valued.
And everyone knows the F-16 guy has a degree! No ifs or buts about it! The defense rests!!!
Fighter guys are weaker in high density ops but their strengths outweigh their weaknesses. The training programs, SOP's, and standardization of the military puts any single pilot civilian SEL job to shame.
And everyone knows the F-16 guy has a degree! No ifs or buts about it! The defense rests!!!
Fighter guys are weaker in high density ops but their strengths outweigh their weaknesses. The training programs, SOP's, and standardization of the military puts any single pilot civilian SEL job to shame.
06-04-2017, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
LOL. That's a good one. You're saying F-16 experience is similar to a Cessna Caravan on a resume?
I'm curious if SW has hired guys who qualified because of their SEL civilian turboprop time. Anyone know?
I'm curious if SW has hired guys who qualified because of their SEL civilian turboprop time. Anyone know?
06-04-2017, 04:12 PM
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If a candidate has the listed TPIC time...the box gets checked. We had an F-16 guy in our class, and aside from the stuff he flew in training it's all he flew. Less than 2000 total time.
Looks like a sword fight is about to begin. I'm out.
Looks like a sword fight is about to begin. I'm out.
06-04-2017, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
At SWA at least, Turbine PIC is Turbine PIC......even single engine. We hire A LOT of single engine fighter pilots so I would hope they wouldn't hold C208 or PC-12 time in a different light.
06-04-2017, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by N6279P
How is what a fighter pilot did in the military relevant to flying passengers around on a 738?
Originally Posted by N6279P
How is what a fighter pilot did in the military relevant to flying passengers around on a 737?
Doesn't matter what I, you, or anyone else thinks.
If you were to look at the data of the background of pilots that had ONLY SE TPIC time, where do you think they come from?
06-05-2017, 04:52 AM
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If a Caravan is valued the same as an F-16, Harrier or F-35 I want to see hundreds of 1500-2500 hr Caravan pilots hired at one of the Big 4 airlines. To make it fairer you can add in the hundreds hired at JB, VX, NK, etc.
06-05-2017, 05:57 AM
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It may check the TPIC box, but ask recruiters at job fairs and I think they will tell you 121 FO time is more valuable than caravan PIC time. Also, I believe the pilot credentials website (AA/SWA/FDX) separates time in the totals boxes by PIC/SIC in aircraft <12,500 lbs and 40,000+ lbs. I don't think <12,500lbs PIC time will make you stand out amongst the regional/LCC guys also applying.
06-05-2017, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by N6279P
How is what a fighter pilot did in the military relevant to flying passengers around on a 738?
I understand you just don't know what you don't know, but it's not even a question.
Fighter guys have millions spent on their training, have significant experience working in high density airports, leading 4-12 other aircraft, and max performing their aircraft. Every hour is spent aviating, navigating, and communicating. No SIC. No pilot monitoring. No droning around flying the magenta line. Flying a hundred knots faster (or more) than the 737.
121 flying is just the motherhood. It's a footnote in comparison.
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