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NoDeskJob 07-08-2017 06:11 PM

Also, curious...do UA guys in NYC have to cover all 3 airports like us? That could be a reason?

MasterOfPuppets 07-09-2017 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by NoDeskJob (Post 2391660)
Also, curious...do UA guys in NYC have to cover all 3 airports like us? That could be a reason?

Yep, but we don't serve JFK anymore at the moment.

MasterOfPuppets 07-09-2017 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by rbigred300 (Post 2391579)
why do you guys think Delta has some 4 month captains and plenty of captains below the 2 year mark, and United sounds like it's 8-10 years to become captain?

I've heard senior Delta guys would just rather be senior wide body FO rather than narrow body captain...however United has so many more wide bodies you would think that captain would go just as junior there.

If you say the reason is the 717/88...I understand that is part of it; however just recently NYC 320A went very junior for Delta as well (about 2 years if I'm correct). So why would United EWR 320 be so much more senior?

United has about 200 less aircraft and about 1000 less pilots.

detpilot 07-09-2017 05:58 PM

Yep. Like Timothy McVeigh. Or the Charleston shooter. Etc, etc

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detpilot 07-09-2017 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by detpilot (Post 2392053)
Yep. Like Timothy McVeigh. Or the Charleston shooter. Etc, etc

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My quote failed, but I was referring to the "all terrorists are Muslims" guy...

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C130driver 07-09-2017 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by detpilot (Post 2392053)
Yep. Like Timothy McVeigh. Or the Charleston shooter. Etc, etc

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Yes they are terrorists, yes they are awful people, and no: not all terrorists are Muslim. That being said, McVeigh or Roof are isolated crazed cases compared to a vast, well funded intricate network of radicals around the world. How many of these "white" terrorists yelled "Jesus is great" while they commited their acts? These "white" terrorists do not negate the reality of radical Islam and the unfortunate threat it poses to our profession.

putzin 07-10-2017 01:13 AM


Originally Posted by detpilot (Post 2392057)
My quote failed, but I was referring to the "all terrorists are Muslims" guy...

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One off shootings or a kook going after a federal building is a little different than a religion gunning, trying to blow up, a whole culture that exists all over the world. Ie, "western culture". The shear size of the Islamic army is what makes it effective/concerning and it's growing daliy.

By the way, keeping your head in the sand won't protect you, but it does keep you out of the way of those that defend our way of life and those that seek a better way of life. So, thank you.

And you missed on the quote... Go back and try it again.

ZapBrannigan 07-10-2017 02:03 AM

Btw...

While you "lost decade" guys were busy flying around getting paid ... there were thousands upon thousands of us who were furloughed post 9/11.

Then some a-hole decided it was a good idea to raise the retirement age to 65 WHILE WE WERE STILL ON THE STREET!

As a result many of the 9/11 furloughees didn't go back to their majors and are only now, in their late 40s, competing to interview with some of the companies that are hiring.

THAT is a truly LOST decade.


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Das Auto 07-10-2017 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by C130driver (Post 2392115)
Yes they are terrorists, yes they are awful people, and no: not all terrorists are Muslim. That being said, McVeigh or Roof are isolated crazed cases compared to a vast, well funded intricate network of radicals around the world. How many of these "white" terrorists yelled "Jesus is great" while they commited their acts? These "white" terrorists do not negate the reality of radical Islam and the unfortunate threat it poses to our profession.

You're forgetting the white guy in Portland who plunged a knife into the necks of his white fellow Americans (one of whom was a veteran) because they asked him to stop harassing a young Muslim girl on the train.

What a hero. :mad:

John Carr 07-10-2017 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan (Post 2392135)
Btw...

While you "lost decade" guys were busy flying around getting paid ... there were thousands upon thousands of us who were furloughed post 9/11.

Mostly. I (and others) got to go through a displacement, furlough, and shutdown.

But I (and others) sucked it the eff up and went to the bottom and went backwards starting all over again somewhere else. Some considered themselves "above" that.

Many others were LUCKY enough to get hired at legacy pre 9/11 without ANY TPIC time. After 9/11 pilots without PIC we're at a severe competitive disadvantage.


Then some a-hole decided it was a good idea to raise the retirement age to 65 WHILE WE WERE STILL ON THE STREET!
Right. At the place I started over at, I got to go through my second CA displacement. Good times good times....


As a result many of the 9/11 furloughees didn't go back to their majors and are only now, in their late 40s, competing to interview with some of the companies that are hiring.

THAT is a truly LOST decade.
Indeed it is!!! Refresh my memory, USAir?

Yes, I KNOW IT SUCKED. But see above, I (and others) got to go through it also.

Jetblue as well as Frontier and others sucked up a healthy amount of USAir guys. The ACMI's were hiring, as well as NetJets. And there was always the J4J thingy.....

UAL had the pref hiring/subsidized year 1 pay at UAX carriers.

So while you were on the street, there WERE jobs out here to be had at least. It was simply a matter of what one was willing to do to stay flying.


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