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FLYMIA 10-22-2017 07:04 AM

Record CS
 
Im trying to keep it cool and not let the steam blow too hard out of my ears at the moment. I was curious if anyone here uses a recorded line or a recording app when talking to crew scheduling. Most carriers record from the CS line, but i'm thinking it might benefit me to have my own app at this point.

rickair7777 10-22-2017 08:22 AM

Better know the state laws in both the state you're calling from and the state cs is located in.

May be illegal without their knowledge and concurrence.

terminal 10-22-2017 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2452237)
Better know the state laws in both the state you're calling from and the state cs is located in.

May be illegal without their knowledge and concurrence.

Does that apply when they’re already recording the line?
Essentially the permission to monitor the call is already been granted… Does it matter who is actually doing the recording?

pete2800 10-22-2017 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2452237)
Better know the state laws in both the state you're calling from and the state cs is located in.

May be illegal without their knowledge and concurrence.

Whenever you answer their call... "This call is being recorded for quality assurance purposes."

Problem solved!

at6d 10-22-2017 09:43 AM

I knew a pilot when I was at the regionals that used Google phone VOIP. He would record every call.

Pogey Bait 10-22-2017 11:47 AM

I wouldn’t even stop there...why not have a device on your headset while in the plane that you can record everything being said. This way you really got all your bases covered.

AZFlyer 10-22-2017 11:57 AM

An app called ACR works pretty well. Spend the couple bucks for the premium version.

rickair7777 10-22-2017 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by terminal (Post 2452264)
Does that apply when they’re already recording the line?
Essentially the permission to monitor the call is already been granted… Does it matter who is actually doing the recording?


Originally Posted by pete2800 (Post 2452267)
Whenever you answer their call... "This call is being recorded for quality assurance purposes."

Problem solved!

You know they're recording you, by talking to them your consent is implied.

But if they don't know YOU are recording THEM, it might be illegal in some states. Better check. No use in having a recording of CS which is also evidence you committed a crime.

123494 10-23-2017 05:25 AM

You guys are way too paranoid lol

rickair7777 10-23-2017 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by 123494 (Post 2452730)
You guys are way too paranoid lol

Been in the airline industry for too long.

I guess you could record all you want, but check the laws before trying to use the recording with management... I guarantee you they will be seriously pee-ed off if you throw an illicit recording in their face.

PotatoChip 10-26-2017 08:16 AM

ACR works great. And as stated, simple answer your phone, "Hello, this is Al, this line is being recorded."

Ed Force One 10-26-2017 10:36 AM

Funny thing is, every time something would work against them, somehow the recording mysteriously got "accidentally deleted."

Really, we're just doing them a favor. Think of it like a FADEC. They record on Channel A, we're providing redundancy on Channel B should Channel A fail.

sACKtis 10-26-2017 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by 123494 (Post 2452730)
You guys are way too paranoid lol

Ha just like those nutters who put tape over their iPad camera

badflaps 10-27-2017 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by sACKtis (Post 2455275)
Ha just like those nutters who put tape over their iPad camera

I know they can see through the tape. It just makes me feel better.

sky jet 10-27-2017 12:18 PM

I don't know if it's an option at your place of employment, but at mine I communicate with the company by email 99.8% of the time. I have a written record and I can refer back to details that I might have forgotten/missed in the initial read or by the time I wake up.

NeverHome 10-29-2017 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2455344)
I know they can see through the tape. It just makes me feel better.

Apples technology is that good? Well then next best is to tape a piece of crystal with a high refracted index onto the camera. That otta work.

FWIW, at many airlines the resources are stretched thin. You would have to be on the "list" if they were really gonna spy on you. In that case you have bigger problems.

Government spying on you? See above ;)

WhistlePig 10-29-2017 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2452626)
You know they're recording you, by talking to them your consent is implied.

But if they don't know YOU are recording THEM, it might be illegal in some states. Better check. No use in having a recording of CS which is also evidence you committed a crime.

No, if the line is already being recorded by the other party, you may make your own contemporaneous record of the conversation. Implied consent does apply here. How you USE the recording could get you in trouble however. But there is nothing wrong if you exercise discretion and maintain the same confidentiality you expect of the company.

rickair7777 10-29-2017 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by WhistlePig (Post 2456904)
No, if the line is already being recorded by the other party, you may make your own contemporaneous record of the conversation. Implied consent does apply here. How you USE the recording could get you in trouble however. But there is nothing wrong if you exercise discretion and maintain the same confidentiality you expect of the company.

Depends on state law. Just because they are recording with your knowledge and (implied) consent, doesn't mean you can record them without their knowledge. You may not need their consent, probably just have to tell them.

rickair7777 10-29-2017 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by sky jet (Post 2455669)
I don't know if it's an option at your place of employment, but at mine I communicate with the company by email 99.8% of the time. I have a written record and I can refer back to details that I might have forgotten/missed in the initial read or by the time I wake up.

At most places, you can just self-notify if you agree with what they're assigning. But if you have issues, you need to talk to them... and that's when a recording might be of use.

grnclvrs 11-02-2017 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by NeverHome (Post 2456863)
Apples technology is that good? Well then next best is to tape a piece of crystal with a high refracted index onto the camera. That otta work.

FWIW, at many airlines the resources are stretched thin. You would have to be on the "list" if they were really gonna spy on you. In that case you have bigger problems.

Government spying on you? See above ;)

Always cracks me up when I see guys with the camera taped. Funny thing is that if the company wants to get you they can get much more damning evidence from the microphone than the camera.


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