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Old 11-01-2017, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg View Post
Whichever one allows you to drive to work. After that, whichever one calls you first. Having worked for both, the contract is much better at DAL. I've made WAY more money, with more time off at DAL than I would have if I had stayed at AAL.

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Crewdog, dont you read the delta threads, our contract is the worst in the industry!
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Old 11-01-2017, 07:34 AM
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Roughly 45% of the DL seniority list will be retired in the next 10 years. I would base it on where you, or more importantly your wife/family, wants to live. I can’t even begin to explain how much better your qol will be if you don’t have to commute.
AA will retire ~30 % over next 5 years and ~ 65% over the next 10.
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Using the latest seniority list and counting the remaining 2017 retirements (roughly 200) plus the following 5 or 10 yrs the percentages of AA retirements are -

5 yrs - 25%
10 yrs - 58%
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DAL upgrade time to CA on MD88 and Boeing 717 is about 2 months right now. The schedule won't be any good but over $225 an hour after 2 months on the property. Pretty good deal.
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2 View Post
DAL upgrade time to CA on MD88 and Boeing 717 is about 2 months right now. The schedule won't be any good but over $225 an hour after 2 months on the property. Pretty good deal.
Don't confuse award date with conversion date
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Old 11-01-2017, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2 View Post
DAL upgrade time to CA on MD88 and Boeing 717 is about 2 months right now. The schedule won't be any good but over $225 an hour after 2 months on the property. Pretty good deal.
717 was awarded to two months on property (before conversion)? What base is this?
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Old 11-01-2017, 05:33 PM
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Comparing the difference between American and Delta , APC says for American the most Junior Captain is New York from 1999 which is 18 years ago. Someone hurry and go check to see what their conversion date is!
We had guys on the property for two months they got awarded Captain that's my point.

A320 and B737 was 2-3 years to Captain.

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Originally Posted by Imapilot2 View Post
Comparing the difference between American and Delta , APC says for American the most Junior Captain is New York from 1999 which is 18 years ago. Someone hurry and go check to see what their conversion date is!
We had guys on the property for two months they got awarded Captain that's my point.

A320 and B737 was 2-3 years to Captain.
So what you're saying is...

It's not the size of your seniority that matters, it's how you use it!
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2 View Post
Comparing the difference between American and Delta , APC says for American the most Junior Captain is New York from 1999 which is 18 years ago. Someone hurry and go check to see what their conversion date is!
We had guys on the property for two months they got awarded Captain that's my point.

A320 and B737 was 2-3 years to Captain.
I get your point, folks upgrading crazy fast for a mainline carrier.

My point was most places the time from an award to conversion isn't 1 year later. This 2 month guy/gal likely will convert last, and wont have a 4th bar on the shoulder until over 1 year on property. From the outside looking in it would appear we're hiring street captains.
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Old 11-02-2017, 03:11 AM
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I did a pilot internship at American back in the 90s. I really liked that Airline. Any of the big three would be awesome in my opinion. However in this comparison the upgrade possibilities at Delta hands down make the biggest difference. Outside of don't ever commute if you don't have to.
We all know a new hire today won't wait 18 years. Upgrade times will come down drastically over the next few years. But over the next few years Delta upgrade is almost immediate if you want it.
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