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jcountry 12-05-2017 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by cwingart (Post 2477334)
What are pilots' experience with cold flight deck temperatures on the A320 Family of aircraft?
It's my understanding that temps can reach as low as the mid-20's (degrees Fahrenheit) around pilots' legs/feet.
How do you manage or cope with temperatures that cold? :confused:



Depends on whether you are laying Chemtrails.

The Mind Control Infuser ductwork draws from the same bleed air source. Just wait til another state or two over, and the Brain Altering Cocktail tanks will be empty and you can resume your journey in toasty comfort.

(Totally worth a little discomfort, if you ask me.... Whatever it takes to keep the useless minions placid.

SonicFlyer 12-05-2017 03:05 PM

Isn't this what FAs are for?

:D

Al Czervik 12-05-2017 09:34 PM

Does the 737 have cockpit climate issues?

captjns 12-06-2017 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2478305)
Does the 737 have cockpit climate issues?

No... the -700 is perfectly cold after 4 hours at FL400. Icebergs forming in my coffee about an hour later with total freeze over an hour after that.:(

The good news is during daytime operations, the heat of the sun keeps the temperature just right.

You get a wee better extra warmth with the -800 and even more with the -900 (non ER with 26k motors) since they can’t get above FL340 or FL350 fully with ISA +10 to +15

cwingart 12-06-2017 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by say again (Post 2477344)
Mid 20's?? Where'd you get that info from? My experience has not even come close to that. A little chilly then just turn up the heat. Works great.

A close friend of mine is an engineer at a major airline & they performed a study in which they took temperature readings at regular intervals over the course of 50+ hours on transcontinental flights. During each flight, they recorded temps of mid 20’s to mid 30’s in multiple locations around the cockpit. In line with posts by the commenters on this thread, the coldest readings were observed after about 2.5 hours of flight at the pilots legs/feet. Makes for an uncomfortable contrast of temps between upper body/lower body.

Just wondering what, if anything, pilots are doing to cope with these temps for hours at a time?

Fred Flintstone 12-06-2017 08:39 AM

Airflow is the only way to get heat up front, so closing the vents is not the way to go. Open them up, especially the two in the overhead panel which should be pointed toward the door. That's where the temp sensor is, behind you.

Take the left temp knob and crank it up. VX added insulation in the foot wells which helped, but keep your thin sole shoes off the metal wear strips.

Wearing tight shoes & socks restricts blood flow to your feet & lower legs, so fashion be damned, wear loose socks and loosen your laces. If you suffer foot sweat, try powder and/or gross out the other guy by changing your socks if you are cold.

Close off air & blood circulation and you might as well stick your feet on the rear windowsills next to the water bottles.

13 years in the bus, my $0.02 worth!

badflaps 12-06-2017 10:42 AM

Do they make black plain toed UGGs?

tomgoodman 12-06-2017 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 2478618)
Do they make black plain toed UGGs?

Get a pair of these walrushoppers:

https://winterboots.com/assets/compo...d66921b6d1.jpg

Big E 757 12-06-2017 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by cwingart (Post 2478516)
A close friend of mine is an engineer at a major airline & they performed a study in which they took temperature readings at regular intervals over the course of 50+ hours on transcontinental flights. During each flight, they recorded temps of mid 20’s to mid 30’s in multiple locations around the cockpit. In line with posts by the commenters on this thread, the coldest readings were observed after about 2.5 hours of flight at the pilots legs/feet. Makes for an uncomfortable contrast of temps between upper body/lower body.

Just wondering what, if anything, pilots are doing to cope with these temps for hours at a time?

I read something a few years ago. It was a study of people who sat for prolonged periods of time. It was directed at office workers but it applies to us too. The study had some people stand up every 20-30 minutes for 30 seconds to 1 minute. The people who got up and stood, even if for just a short time, had lower blood pressure and lower cholesterol, on average than the people who stayed seated for hours at a time, not to mention the decreased risk of DVT’s and other blood clots.

Whenever I’m flying a 2+ hour flight, I get up every hour while at cruise and stand for a few minutes. Of course, jumpseater can make this impossible occasionally, but when I can, I do.

Next time your feet are getting icy, stand up for a minute or two, or set up a bathroom break, just to get the blood flowing a little better. Your health and medical certificate might thank you one day. Do a few knee bends or stretch your hamstrings a little. I’ve found my FO’s don’t like me doing squat thrusts on the center console but if you keep it within reason, it’s good for you.

YXnot 12-07-2017 08:01 AM

Another vote for keeping the vents, all of them, wide open throughout. Plus plan to stay ahead of the curve if possible. I think some of our ships have had insulation placed in the area just behind the pedals which also seems to help. I will take the bus any day over the 73.


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