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Old 01-10-2018, 07:24 AM
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Which is why the retirement age should be raised to 70.
Bahahaha!!! Can we start a “Most outlandish statement of the day” thread?

Tell ya what....if we can do annual cognitive testing past age 65 then I’m on board. Oh wait.....even then I’m not.

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Old 01-10-2018, 08:15 AM
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Every boom is the next decade’s stagnation. It’s the nature of a seniority based system. With the new hire age range not as compressed as in prior booms, it may be lessened. Delta has hired over 3,500 pilots that’s most of their top paying captains for the next 10-20 years.
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That's a good point and something to consider for all with the goal of wanting to become widebody capts. With delta having the least amount of widebody aircrafts of the majors (total numbers, not sure percentage wise) and considering how many have already been hired, I wonder what that magical age to get hired at is if you want to be widebody capt for the last 10-15 years of your career. Certainly much younger than united or american. With AA having the most retirements and assuming a much older newhire age due to flow throughs the opportunity for advancement looks a lot better there. All this being said, still go to the first one to call.
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Old 01-10-2018, 08:46 AM
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Which is why the retirement age should be raised to 70.
Who the hell wants to work until they’re 70??!!!

I don’t want to work to 65...
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Who the hell wants to work until they’re 70??!!!

I don’t want to work to 65...
Answer: all the 64year old pilots at your airline
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Originally Posted by putzin View Post
Which is why the retirement age should be raised to 70.
The age 60 to age 65 shift brought the US in line with ICAO standards... we should not have an age shift to take us beyond that in 121.

Want to work till age 70... go corporate.
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Originally Posted by Otterbox View Post
The age 60 to age 65 shift brought the US in line with ICAO standards... we should not have an age shift to take us beyond that in 121.

Want to work till age 70... go corporate.
The Japanese are already at 67. I expect we'll see that eventually at the rate things are trending. I think beyond that you'll really start pushing biology, and would need cog testing for sure.

But careful what you wish for... if implemented, cog testing might be applied to 50 year olds as well as 65 year olds. Or even all 121 pilots. Cog testing may be like ishihara tests... somebody who flies just fine may not be able to pass test.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
The Japanese are already at 67. I expect we'll see that eventually at the rate things are trending. I think beyond that you'll really start pushing biology, and would need cog testing for sure.

But careful what you wish for... if implemented, cog testing might be applied to 50 year olds as well as 65 year olds. Or even all 121 pilots. Cog testing may be like ishihara tests... somebody who flies just fine may not be able to pass test.
I agree many test out there wouldn't be passed by common folk. Like the Ishihara color vision test , most commonly failed test , 1in 4 males have a color deficiency in green. Notcolor blind but a deficiency. Meanwhile plenty of other navy approved test are passed all day. I agree careful what we wish for . And don't even bring BMI into the U.S. Half the airlines would shut down tomorrow. Very large overweight group sadly .
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
The Japanese are already at 67. I expect we'll see that eventually at the rate things are trending. I think beyond that you'll really start pushing biology, and would need cog testing for sure.

But careful what you wish for... if implemented, cog testing might be applied to 50 year olds as well as 65 year olds. Or even all 121 pilots. Cog testing may be like ishihara tests... somebody who flies just fine may not be able to pass test.
The average Japanese is healthy and fit with a good diet. The average American today is obese (not even overweight, obese) with bad eating habits and lack of exercise. The Japanese also have a higher life expectancy than the average American. There’s no comparison.
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The average Japanese is healthy and fit with a good diet. The average American today is obese (not even overweight, obese) with bad eating habits and lack of exercise. The Japanese also have a higher life expectancy than the average American. There’s no comparison.
good thing they also have nearly 2x the US incidence of smoking and drinking otherwise we would really suck,

they also have a genetically homogeneous population demographic.

which makes general life expectancy comparisons overly simplistic.
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I agree many test out there wouldn't be passed by common folk. Like the Ishihara color vision test , most commonly failed test , 1in 4 males have a color deficiency in green. Notcolor blind but a deficiency. Meanwhile plenty of other navy approved test are passed all day. I agree careful what we wish for . And don't even bring BMI into the U.S. Half the airlines would shut down tomorrow. Very large overweight group sadly .
Do they have to do the kobayashi maru?
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