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Old 02-13-2018, 05:25 AM
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Great gig.

Until dick gere stays over.
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ecca View Post
A soap on a rope in Cindy Crawford’s bathroom.
You mean that lady in the Rooms To Go commercials ? 😉
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Old 02-13-2018, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Varsity View Post
Going to have to disagree with you on both points. Most STEM types wold be bored as hell driving the same airplane to the same places over and over again. It's not nearly as technical as most new tech jobs today.
I am a STEM type, and have had technical and management jobs outside of aviation. Some STEM jobs can be pretty mind-numbing as well. I actually enjoyed what I did, but had the aviation bug. As it turns out, aviation has provided a better QOL, and the career-total earnings will be higher. That's comparing W2 jobs, not anything like starting your own business of course.

I stay mentally engaged in the technical aspects of aviation, which is a pretty big playground encompassing many flavors of engineering and computer tech.


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300K is only made by the same old out of touch guys squatting on the 20,000 jobs at the legacies that pay that. Nobody else in aviation makes that.
When the dust settles I think every NB CA in the US will top out at $300k or better.


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This is evidenced by your post.
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:50 AM
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Subject pops up now and then, more so during the purgatory years of crap pay and CHP11 after 9/11.

Obviously we have plenty of guys with STEM and business backgrounds who did well during the time. Most were in their 30's and 40's.

What we tend not to hear during the "grass is always greener" discussions are the number of 50+ year olds in these other careers with great pay, bonuses, pensions and responsibility who are summarily terminated with no real hope of regaining similar positions at that age. The "Rockstars" of course tend to do well, but that bid position seems limited.
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Old 02-13-2018, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer View Post
What we tend not to hear during the "grass is always greener" discussions are the number of 50+ year olds in these other careers with great pay, bonuses, pensions and responsibility who are summarily terminated with no real hope of regaining similar positions at that age. The "Rockstars" of course tend to do well, but that bid position seems limited.
Pilots tend not to understand this. Once you've made it in the white-collar world... then you have to keep it. Every day. Every single day. And that includes days off.

Frankly if you're a highly paid, highly experienced (translation: old) worker you're either a rockstar or a target. Somebody can fire you, hire a 20-something for 1/3 your pay, and then claim a $15K bonus on their annual evaluation for efficiency.
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Old 02-13-2018, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Pilots tend not to understand this. Once you've made it in the white-collar world... then you have to keep it. Every day. Every single day. And that includes days off.

Frankly if you're a highly paid, highly experienced (translation: old) worker you're either a rockstar or a target. Somebody can fire you, hire a 20-something for 1/3 your pay, and then claim a $15K bonus on their annual evaluation for efficiency.
That's what happened to my dad. He was a manager level and got comfortable then with 5 years until a full retirement, they laid him off.
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Old 02-13-2018, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
I stay mentally engaged in the technical aspects of aviation, which is a pretty big playground encompassing many flavors of engineering and computer tech.
Plus meteorology, geography, public relations, and management.

“The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.”

It’s more enjoyable being a fox.
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Old 02-13-2018, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity View Post
Going to have to disagree with you on both points. Most STEM types wold be bored as hell driving the same airplane to the same places over and over again. It's not nearly as technical as most new tech jobs today.

300K is only made by the same old out of touch guys squatting on the 20,000 jobs at the legacies that pay that. Nobody else in aviation makes that. This is evidenced by your post.
Well, I'm an ME graduate among other things and know with certainty I'd be bored senseless doing what my classmates do. And I make more than them, work far less, and the world is not just my oyster, but explored first class for a hundred bucks each way. You can have your "stimulating" stem job inside a structure somewhere with your non-natural lighting. I've ended up where I'm supposed to be.
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Old 02-13-2018, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Pilots tend not to understand this. Once you've made it in the white-collar world... then you have to keep it. Every day. Every single day. And that includes days off.

Frankly if you're a highly paid, highly experienced (translation: old) worker you're either a rockstar or a target. Somebody can fire you, hire a 20-something for 1/3 your pay, and then claim a $15K bonus on their annual evaluation for efficiency.
Just curious. What is considered “highly paid” in that world?
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Old 02-13-2018, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post
Just curious. What is considered “highly paid” in that world?
About a dollar more than what I am paid.

Seriously, here are the percentile of all salaries in the US.

$38,000 - 50th percentile

$108,000 - 90th percentile

$150,000 - 95th percentile

$300,000 - 99th percentile

You decide where “highly paid” is. 90th percentile? 95th? 99th?
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