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Old 02-25-2018, 06:32 PM
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Yes Spirit has been very aggressive with this. We have a union volunteer who experienced a very bad one a few years ago and has made this his mission. He has done an extraordinary job of educating not only our group but is working with many other groups as well.
Look up Dr. Clement Furlong.
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If you are at the gate get off the plane. If you are on the ground open your window. If you are in Flight don your O2 mask. This stuff is terrible for your brain.
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Do you have any external reference to point to on this for more information? I find this very intriguing. Happy for PMs if you’d prefer.
Take some time and look up “Tricresyl Phosphate” and “aerotoxic syndrome”.
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So if you get a jet that has this issue refuse it.
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This law firm is leading the movement for education and prevention.
Pyrolized oil is a definite work hazard for all flight crew.

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Thanks everyone for the responses. If I read everything correctly here, it sounds like there is no official document or guidance from Airbus, any airline, or ALPA correct?
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Yes Spirit has been very aggressive with this. We have a union volunteer who experienced a very bad one a few years ago and has made this his mission. He has done an extraordinary job of educating not only our group but is working with many other groups as well.
Look up Dr. Clement Furlong.
EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH THIS!

https://www.alliedpilots.org/Committ...ated-Cabin-Air
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Thanks everyone for the responses. If I read everything correctly here, it sounds like there is no official document or guidance from Airbus, any airline, or ALPA correct?
As far as I can find in my research, you are correct. With the exception of Spirit who has implemented an official procedure. These event are actually very common, but we don't hear about them very often because they are underreported. I think many crews simply don't think much of the smell; especially if it is short lived. Occasionally someone gets hurt. I wouldn't be overly concerned, except bran damage is permanent. Guys have lost medicals and even died.

I think airlines and manufactures have mostly brushed this issue under the rug. It's bad press. Watch the video I posted in the post above. It's Eric Tillman of Spirit giving a presentation to APA. It's loaded with tons of good info. I'll link again below.

https://www.alliedpilots.org/Committ...ated-Cabin-Air
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As far as I can find in my research, you are correct. With the exception of Spirit who has implemented an official procedure. These event are actually very common, but we don't hear about them very often because they are underreported. I think many crews simply don't think much of the smell; especially if it is short lived. Occasionally someone gets hurt. I wouldn't be overly concerned, except bran damage is permanent. Guys have lost medicals and even died.

I think airlines and manufactures have mostly brushed this issue under the rug. It's bad press. Watch the video I posted in the post above. It's Eric Tillman of Spirit giving a presentation to APA. It's loaded with tons of good info. I'll link again below.

https://www.alliedpilots.org/Committ...ated-Cabin-Air
Good info but may have autocorrected on you. His last name is Tellmann.
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:47 PM
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I commonly sense, what best I can describe as a “solvent” smell, while descending into a humid destination. Is this what we are talking about?
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