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Old 08-05-2020, 06:30 PM
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JetBlue worker’s compensation claim ruled in favor of the pilot (who won’t fly again and almost died). Lots of very good reading, and good precedent set.
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Old 08-05-2020, 09:13 PM
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Horrifying on many levels, here.
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Old 08-06-2020, 04:36 PM
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Cliffs notes?
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Old 08-06-2020, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot View Post
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Accident: Jetblue A320 at Portland on Jan 20th 2017 and Jan 21st 2017, fumes injure captain, court confirms causal link
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Old 08-06-2020, 05:08 PM
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For the life of me I will NEVER EVER EVER understand why the F they went back into the aircraft for the 3rd run up. That is just insane to me.

The report talks about how the 2nd run up was the strongest and worst fume event both crewmembers had ever experienced.

Both of them ran off the airplane and into the jet bridge to get fresh air. Both were experiencing symptoms in the jet bridge and the CA had fallen down in the jet bridge.

A mechanic comes up and is horrified to see “OMG there is a haze in here” of mist/vapors in the aircraft and cabin. Despite all of this, both crew-members reenter the cabin and do the 3rd run up.

It was the 3rd and final run up that ended this guys career. The CA experienced tremors, burning/watering eyes, shortness of breath, numbness in the right side of some extremities and a host of other awfulness.

I hate to MMQB, but this is just insane to me. I could understand if the first 2 run ups didn’t produce any kind of symptoms, then sure you don’t think anything of it and get it done, but you and your FO both ran off the airplane because you experienced numerous symptoms and were feeling unwell.
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Old 08-06-2020, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CAirBear View Post
For the life of me I will NEVER EVER EVER understand why the F they went back into the aircraft for the 3rd run up. That is just insane to me.

The report talks about how the 2nd run up was the strongest and worst fume event both crewmembers had ever experienced.

Both of them ran off the airplane and into the jet bridge to get fresh air. Both were experiencing symptoms in the jet bridge and the CA had fallen down in the jet bridge.

A mechanic comes up and is horrified to see “OMG there is a haze in here” of mist/vapors in the aircraft and cabin. Despite all of this, both crew-members reenter the cabin and do the 3rd run up.

It was the 3rd and final run up that ended this guys career. The CA experienced tremors, burning/watering eyes, shortness of breath, numbness in the right side of some extremities and a host of other awfulness.

I hate to MMQB, but this is just insane to me. I could understand if the first 2 run ups didn’t produce any kind of symptoms, then sure you don’t think anything of it and get it done, but you and your FO both ran off the airplane because you experienced numerous symptoms and were feeling unwell.
I think judgment and performance impairment is an effect of TCP poisoning. Kind of like someone who is hypoxic thinking everything is all good. Also, olfactory fatigue likely set in and they no longer detected any odors/fumes and thought it was ok to get back on. No way am I gonna Monday morning quarterback this one.
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Old 08-07-2020, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by copy View Post
https://www.gcaqe.org/news?fbclid=Iw...0UbL5v_Tr-rnBg

JetBlue worker’s compensation claim ruled in favor of the pilot (who won’t fly again and almost died). Lots of very good reading, and good precedent set.
Pardon my ignorance, but why was it necessary to go down the WC path when LTD would pay most of his salary to 65 since he is clearly unable to work?

Or was this WC claim in addition to the LTD payout?
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Old 08-07-2020, 02:49 PM
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Same question - why WC vs LTD? I'm sure there is a reason
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Old 08-07-2020, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by AirborneUPSMovr View Post
Same question - why WC vs LTD? I'm sure there is a reason
If you are injured at work the employer should foot the bill. I believe it was denied originally.

LTD should have been paid regardless.
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