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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 2565715)
I received assbeatings as a kid. Pretty sure they were all warranted, though some I could call a badge of honor and take pride in having gotten a whooping. Some were outright comical looking back.
Funny thing talking to my kids now that they’re out of college, they say the same thing... and it’s subject of many laughs for them nowadays, just how mine are for me. Goggles, you can parrot as many articles on what the so-called “experts” have to say, I’ll happily go with what’s worked in my family for generations and it boils down to the old saying “Spare the rod, spoil the child.” Pretty sure a nice talking to here won’t help here. https://youtu.be/Cg6jvKt2h6s Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 2565715)
I received assbeatings as a kid. Pretty sure they were all warranted, though some I could call a badge of honor and take pride in having gotten a whooping. Some were outright comical looking back.
Funny thing talking to my kids now that they’re out of college, they say the same thing... and it’s subject of many laughs for them nowadays, just how mine are for me. Goggles, you can parrot as many articles on what the so-called “experts” have to say, I’ll happily go with what’s worked in my family for generations and it boils down to the old saying “Spare the rod, spoil the child.” But keep a few things in perspective: A few generations ago wife-beating was “looked the other way”-upon. We learn from research and studies and as a society we progress. Most of us. In the advanced world. |
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 2565910)
A light swat on the butt is probably okay for a toddler in melt-down mode.
But keep a few things in perspective: A few generations ago wife-beating was “looked the other way”-upon. We learn from research and studies and as a society we progress. Most of us. In the advanced world. |
Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
(Post 2565910)
A light swat on the butt is probably okay for a toddler in melt-down mode.
But keep a few things in perspective: A few generations ago wife-beating was “looked the other way”-upon. We learn from research and studies and as a society we progress. Most of us. In the advanced world. Of course, you don't savagely beat a kid to bloody mess to get your point across. There's a lot to be said for 'reasonable, appropriate and necessary' aspect of disciplining a kid. There are various steps and levels of discipline. If a kid spilled a drink on the table, of course, they wouldn't get popped. If they made an honest mistake, of course, they wouldn't get popped. They'd be shown the right way. But lie to me, and they'd get popped without fail. Be disrespectful, and you get popped without fail. And guess what... being consistent is what it's all about. Grounding a kid meant we were also grounded in some way. They need to learn their actions have consequences on others too. And yes, the kids' feelings will be hurt by their actions - you don't shield them from it. That's how they learn. In short, there's a big difference between discipline and abuse. Most rational people know it. Did my kids have black eyes? No way. Did my kids ever bleed from getting popped? Hell no! Did they have red bums at times? You better believe it. Sorry, but I don't put much stake in "experts" who brought us 7th place trophies, "safe spaces" in college, and the butthurt generation (the ones who get offended at anything they don't like). If this is your idea of "advanced world", I truly feel sorry for you and for the generations coming after us. I think the "doomed world" is far more appropriate. |
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 2566209)
Thanks to "research" and "studies" we started killing flies with hand grenades. Unfortunately, there's no manual that comes with having kids.
Of course, you don't savagely beat a kid to bloody mess to get your point across. There's a lot to be said for 'reasonable, appropriate and necessary' aspect of disciplining a kid. There are various steps and levels of discipline. If a kid spilled a drink on the table, of course, they wouldn't get popped. If they made an honest mistake, of course, they wouldn't get popped. They'd be shown the right way. But lie to me, and they'd get popped without fail. Be disrespectful, and you get popped without fail. And guess what... being consistent is what it's all about. Grounding a kid meant we were also grounded in some way. They need to learn their actions have consequences on others too. And yes, the kids' feelings will be hurt by their actions - you don't shield them from it. That's how they learn. In short, there's a big difference between discipline and abuse. Most rational people know it. Did my kids have black eyes? No way. Did my kids ever bleed from getting popped? Hell no! Did they have red bums at times? You better believe it. Sorry, but I don't put much stake in "experts" who brought us 7th place trophies, "safe spaces" in college, and the butthurt generation (the ones who get offended at anything they don't like). If this is your idea of "advanced world", I truly feel sorry for you and for the generations coming after us. I think the "doomed world" is far more appropriate. |
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 2566209)
Thanks to "research" and "studies" we started killing flies with hand grenades. Unfortunately, there's no manual that comes with having kids.
Of course, you don't savagely beat a kid to bloody mess to get your point across. There's a lot to be said for 'reasonable, appropriate and necessary' aspect of disciplining a kid. There are various steps and levels of discipline. If a kid spilled a drink on the table, of course, they wouldn't get popped. If they made an honest mistake, of course, they wouldn't get popped. They'd be shown the right way. But lie to me, and they'd get popped without fail. Be disrespectful, and you get popped without fail. And guess what... being consistent is what it's all about. Grounding a kid meant we were also grounded in some way. They need to learn their actions have consequences on others too. And yes, the kids' feelings will be hurt by their actions - you don't shield them from it. That's how they learn. In short, there's a big difference between discipline and abuse. Most rational people know it. Did my kids have black eyes? No way. Did my kids ever bleed from getting popped? Hell no! Did they have red bums at times? You better believe it. Sorry, but I don't put much stake in "experts" who brought us 7th place trophies, "safe spaces" in college, and the butthurt generation (the ones who get offended at anything they don't like). If this is your idea of "advanced world", I truly feel sorry for you and for the generations coming after us. I think the "doomed world" is far more appropriate. My neighbor's kids growing up were never hit by their parents. Their kids include two doctors, a teacher/coach and paramedic and all very successful. It isn't zero sum. If you choose not to hit your kids, it doesn't by default mean they do whatever they want like your are implying. The "be your kid's friend" is what has caused the safe spaces generation. |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 2566331)
The key word is discipline. It is possible to impart discipline without physical violence. Just because someone refuses to hit their kid doesn't mean they won't discipline them.
My neighbor's kids growing up were never hit by their parents. Their kids include two doctors, a teacher/coach and paramedic and all very successful. It isn't zero sum. If you choose not to hit your kids, it doesn't by default mean they do whatever they want like your are implying. The "be your kid's friend" is what has caused the safe spaces generation. Not every child needs physical discipline, but some most certainly do. One size does not fit all. If you're a parent, you'd understand. :) |
Originally Posted by angry tanker
(Post 2560267)
Just take a look at what medicine all of these shooters were taking. Forget the NRA and their political contributions, go look at big pharmaceutical and their contributions. It will make all others look like amateurs.
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 2566209)
Thanks to "research" and "studies" we started killing flies with hand grenades. Unfortunately, there's no manual that comes with having kids.
Of course, you don't savagely beat a kid to bloody mess to get your point across. There's a lot to be said for 'reasonable, appropriate and necessary' aspect of disciplining a kid. There are various steps and levels of discipline. If a kid spilled a drink on the table, of course, they wouldn't get popped. If they made an honest mistake, of course, they wouldn't get popped. They'd be shown the right way. But lie to me, and they'd get popped without fail. Be disrespectful, and you get popped without fail. And guess what... being consistent is what it's all about. Grounding a kid meant we were also grounded in some way. They need to learn their actions have consequences on others too. And yes, the kids' feelings will be hurt by their actions - you don't shield them from it. That's how they learn. In short, there's a big difference between discipline and abuse. Most rational people know it. Did my kids have black eyes? No way. Did my kids ever bleed from getting popped? Hell no! Did they have red bums at times? You better believe it. Sorry, but I don't put much stake in "experts" who brought us 7th place trophies, "safe spaces" in college, and the butthurt generation (the ones who get offended at anything they don't like). If this is your idea of "advanced world", I truly feel sorry for you and for the generations coming after us. I think the "doomed world" is far more appropriate. |
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