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lowandslow 03-24-2018 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by P Owed Captain (Post 2557893)
I had seen a lot of NK pilots expressing fear that schedule flexibility was going away with the new contract, so I'm happy to hear things are still good for you guys!

For reserve pilots it has gone away wrt ability to drop at will. Currently restricted to 1 block outside in and after PBS once a year via vacation float. This should be positive for lineholders' flexibility.

FallingWithStyle 02-26-2022 03:01 AM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 2554842)
I’ve successfully dropped close to 100% of my AA schedule every month since holding a line last summer, and rebuilt to 90hrs using out of base trips. It’s very doable here. Like Al Czervik said... ya gotta know how to do it.

Is this what the guy earlier was talking about? Like you CAN do it but you have to work the system?

thrust 02-26-2022 04:42 AM

I’ve dropped my entire schedule at AA ((lineholder) since December. Haven’t flown a trip for straight pay since then- all premium, working the same amount of days. There are a few methods of doing this. It isn’t that difficult to do nor does it take a ton of time. There are ways to automate the process so you’re not glued to a phone. Obviously, seniority helps- getting trips others desire in PBS is the first step. Don’t expect to be the most junior lineholder and have the same flexibility as the most senior lineholder. I imagine that principle applies at any airline.

FallingWithStyle 02-26-2022 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3379424)
I’ve dropped my entire schedule at AA ((lineholder) since December. Haven’t flown a trip for straight pay since then- all premium, working the same amount of days. There are a few methods of doing this. It isn’t that difficult to do nor does it take a ton of time. There are ways to automate the process so you’re not glued to a phone. Obviously, seniority helps- getting trips others desire in PBS is the first step. Don’t expect to be the most junior lineholder and have the same flexibility as the most senior lineholder. I imagine that principle applies at any airline.

Totally understandable. But even second year where I'm at now, I can drop swap pickup etc with almost no issue. Don't have to do anything special during the bid to make it work. Thanks for the insight though! Some name it seem as though AA is locked in once the schedule comes out.

thrust 02-26-2022 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by FallingWithStyle (Post 3379450)
Some name it seem as though AA is locked in once the schedule comes out.

There’s a cadre of constant complainers at every airline. There’s usually more to the story in those examples- super junior in a senior category with awful trips on weekends and holidays, no **** it’s gonna be tough to drop/trade.

icohftb 02-26-2022 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3379424)
I’ve dropped my entire schedule at AA ((lineholder) since December. Haven’t flown a trip for straight pay since then- all premium, working the same amount of days. There are a few methods of doing this. It isn’t that difficult to do nor does it take a ton of time. There are ways to automate the process so you’re not glued to a phone. Obviously, seniority helps- getting trips others desire in PBS is the first step. Don’t expect to be the most junior lineholder and have the same flexibility as the most senior lineholder. I imagine that principle applies at any airline.

what fleet/domicile?

asmallstep4man 03-14-2022 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3379424)
I’ve dropped my entire schedule at AA ((lineholder) since December. Haven’t flown a trip for straight pay since then- all premium, working the same amount of days. There are a few methods of doing this. It isn’t that difficult to do nor does it take a ton of time. There are ways to automate the process so you’re not glued to a phone. Obviously, seniority helps- getting trips others desire in PBS is the first step. Don’t expect to be the most junior lineholder and have the same flexibility as the most senior lineholder. I imagine that principle applies at any airline.

Echoing the fleet and domicile question? And how many years at AA to hold your line?

thrust 03-14-2022 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by asmallstep4man (Post 3388737)
Echoing the fleet and domicile question? And how many years at AA to hold your line?

Missed this. 737 MIA. I held a line after maybe 4 months post-OE, a couple years pre-COVID.

I don’t think I’ve actually ever flown my entire PBS-awarded schedule.

nene 03-14-2022 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by Go Cards go (Post 2553698)
I’m at Delta. You can drop as many trips as you want as long as there’s reserve coverage over the days you want to drop the trip. We also have a pilot swap board where someone else can pick up your trip from you. I’ve used both with success. For the past year or so there’s been pretty good coverage to be able to drop most of the time with the exception of holidays. When staffing gets tight, you’re pretty much stuck. You do get one drop a year when reserve coverage is low. That being said, spend some time learning how PBS works and how to bid successfully to get the days off you want. You’d be surprised at how many guys senior to you don’t. In my first three years, I’ve worked one Christmas and that was a 2200 sign in so....I technically worked Christmas, but was home most of the day. You’ve just got to plan ahead, put in some time learning the system, and maybe have a little luck. I had the last two weeks of December off each of the last two years. I think our PBS system works really well to get you the days off you want if you know how to do it Wherever you decide to work, pay attention and take lots of notes the day they talk about bidding schedules (by whatever system you have). Then use any resources you have to learn the system really well. It’s time we’ll spent in my opinion.
Good luck!

At Delta, not only can you drop one trip into open time per year without reserve coverage (with restrictions around holidays), we also have the ability to drop up to two more trips annually with borrowing future vacation days and placing them on days of the trip and that does not require reserve coverage.

asmallstep4man 03-15-2022 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by thrust (Post 3388809)
Missed this. 737 MIA. I held a line after maybe 4 months post-OE, a couple years pre-COVID.

I don’t think I’ve actually ever flown my entire PBS-awarded schedule.

Thanks for the info! Would you guess this is probably doable flying NB in a junior base?


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