East Coast Guard Idiots....
04-16-2018, 01:31 PM
#81
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
Yeah, that flies in the face of known human factors... people don't remember to do things in the future particularly well unless there's some tangible trigger or reminder.
04-16-2018, 01:38 PM
#82
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Originally Posted by Keizer Soze
You mean like crossing the FAF?
ATC does do some stuff that I have an issue with. But vectoring me to final and asking me to give tower a call for my landing clearance when I get to the marker isn't one of them.
I can't imagine this step is that difficult to remember since it's pretty much tied to receiving a landing clearance.
04-16-2018, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Keizer Soze
You mean like crossing the FAF?
04-16-2018, 06:29 PM
#85
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
The problem is, they usually assign a speed to the marker also. That means right as I am about to call Tower, the PF will call for flaps, gear, and landing checklist. That is a lot of stuff to get done before we hit 1,000 feet AGL on the plane I currently fly. Personally, I call the tower about 1/2 mile early to make sure I don't get rushed.
04-16-2018, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Falcondrivr
It happened to me.
I got a letter from the LAS FSDO for missing a handoff in ZLA airspace. Even though we were both alert and monitoring guard, we never heard our call sign. When we passed BLD, I said, “we should have gotten switched to Albuquerque.” We looked up the freq old school on the chart and checked in. They asked me to call ZLA. I did and they said they had been trying to reach us. I think the controller dropped the ball. But I called our POI and told him about the letter and he advised me to act like it was our fault, be humble, and it would go away. That’s exactly what I did and the LAS FSDO inspector had me take a couple online wings classes, and then circular filed the whole incident. I checked and it’s not on my record.
But yes, they will go after you for a missed handoff.
I got a letter from the LAS FSDO for missing a handoff in ZLA airspace. Even though we were both alert and monitoring guard, we never heard our call sign. When we passed BLD, I said, “we should have gotten switched to Albuquerque.” We looked up the freq old school on the chart and checked in. They asked me to call ZLA. I did and they said they had been trying to reach us. I think the controller dropped the ball. But I called our POI and told him about the letter and he advised me to act like it was our fault, be humble, and it would go away. That’s exactly what I did and the LAS FSDO inspector had me take a couple online wings classes, and then circular filed the whole incident. I checked and it’s not on my record.
But yes, they will go after you for a missed handoff.
04-17-2018, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
Bull crap I would take any classes online if I was sure they didn't call. Not going to let that get started then trickle into some other aspect of my career
I think they at least owe you a call on guard, in case the problem is the assigned freq.
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