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Old 04-18-2018, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
Good for that one pilot. May good luck be on his side. To the other 11 please add their name to the scab list.
Unfortunately you have to be a strike breaker to be on the scab list . This strike was over in November per the article above and other sources I have read. This deal is reprehensible no doubt but doesn’t surprise me coming from Boeing.
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:38 AM
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Unfortunately you have to be a strike breaker to be on the scab list . This strike was over in November per the article above and other sources I have read. This deal is reprehensible no doubt but doesn’t surprise me coming from Boeing.
But the pilots were fired during the strike (might be wrong) so it would still apply
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
But the pilots were fired during the strike (might be wrong) so it would still apply
Think you are. Ill have to reread my other sources but I'm sure I read that these firings are post strike as a management retribution for striking.
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Think you are. Ill have to reread my other sources but I'm sure I read that these firings are post strike as a management retribution for striking.
How is that any different?
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Old 04-18-2018, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon View Post
How is that any different?
It's a grey area, but without a clear consensus of established tradition it's a very slippery slope to expand the definition of scab. Pretty soon everybody becomes a scab and it has no meaning.
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Old 04-18-2018, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon View Post
How is that any different?
Because the strike was over - so no picket line was crossed?

The issue of course is the WHY the pilots were fired (supposed retribution), but otherwise are you going to call ANY pilot who takes a job with that airline hence forth a 'scab' because they took a job that use to belong to a pilot who was fired? When does stop? Is this label only applied to the first 12 pilots hired?

SCAB means something very distinct in the aviation culture.
The term often gets thrown around on the boards improperly.
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
Because the strike was over - so no picket line was crossed?

The issue of course is the WHY the pilots were fired (supposed retribution), but otherwise are you going to call ANY pilot who takes a job with that airline hence forth a 'scab' because they took a job that use to belong to a pilot who was fired? When does stop? Is this label only applied to the first 12 pilots hired?

SCAB means something very distinct in the aviation culture.
The term often gets thrown around on the boards improperly.
The pilots were hired specifically to replace pilots fired as a direct result of striking. Even if it isn't "scabbing" the pilots that chose to replace the pilots that struck should face the same consequences. Good on the one pilot who has the guts to realize it was wrong and refuse.
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Old 04-18-2018, 06:48 PM
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If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck... it’s a scab. I think it’s pretty clear in this situation.
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:37 PM
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The pilots got fired for striking. Now the Boeing pilots step right in. That sounds like a scab
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Old 04-18-2018, 09:46 PM
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I asked this on another thread, but didn't get any responses. I'll ask here, since I don't know the answers:

- If these Boeing-supplied American-citizen pilots actually fly for Avianca, and then later get a job with an ALPA-represented US carrier later, would they be allowed to be an ALPA member?

- If a Colombian pilot crosses the Avianca picket line, and then in a few years flies for an ALPA-represented US carrier, would they be allowed to be an ALPA member?

- If this situation were happening at a small foreign airlines like Jambojet (that isn't known in the US), would the implications of crossing the picket line be the same, WRT joining ALPA later?
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