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Two Kings 05-16-2018 09:27 AM

Awful segment.

Any reason they couldn’t put the reporter in the observation seat and show home viewers how an airliner is suppose to be operated? The FO has just as must to do with the safe outcome of a flight as the Captain.

hilltopflyer 05-16-2018 09:32 AM

Don't worry she will be at delta in 2 years

KSCessnaDriver 05-16-2018 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2595187)
Looks like a CRJ, if it's a 200 then idle at 100ft is actually fairly realistic depending on speed.

Putting both hands on the yoke though? Yeah....

99% sure that's a CRJ-200, from looking at the displays on pause. So pulling the power that high is not a big deal.

hilltopflyer 05-16-2018 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2595187)
Looks like a CRJ, if it's a 200 then idle at 100ft is actually fairly realistic depending on speed.

Putting both hands on the yoke though? Yeah....

I flew crjs and if you were single engine and let a completely unspooled engine float down from 100 feet you weren't going to make it. Let alone if you had to do a go around. Terrible tv segment.

rickair7777 05-16-2018 09:41 AM

It was a CRJ 200, and she sucked. She finally stowed the boards after stalling a few times. 100 feet is too high for idle even in a 200, if your energy state is that jacked you need to go around. But she probably had the red screen disabled.

Must be a reason she works for riddle. Tami Jo probably threw up a little bit.

jcountry 05-16-2018 09:48 AM

Harvard of the Sky!

RJCaptin 05-16-2018 10:22 AM

It's all good, as long as she passes the Hogan. Call the United recruiters.

Baradium 05-16-2018 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2595222)
It was a CRJ 200, and she sucked. She finally stowed the boards after stalling a few times. 100 feet is too high for idle even in a 200, if your energy state is that jacked you need to go around. But she probably had the red screen disabled.

Must be a reason she works for riddle. Tami Jo probably threw up a little bit.

Not going to comment on the rest of the airmanship. However...

Depending on conditions, 100 ft is very plausible in a 200. Many 200 pilots pull power way too late and land much flatter than they should be. A pretty normal technique is to begin pulling power at 100 ft and vary speed of reduction based on energy state. Power should normally be at idle by 50 ft in that plane. Depending on energy and winds, straight to idle at 100 ft does happen, especially depending on approach speed being flown (whether the operator flies at ref or ref+5 or more).

dudeskibro 05-16-2018 10:34 AM

The pilot in this video was a legacy pilot furloughed after 9/11 who didn't come back to flying. She's a professor in the college and hasn't touched a jet in almost 20 years. She's a brilliant and fantastic professor. 20/20 should have gone to an airline or sim facility and found a 737 instructor.

TCASTESTOK 05-16-2018 10:47 AM

Heres a great bit from reddit on the video

Alternate title: Watch as a "veteran ERAU pilot" brings shame to herself, her employer, and the brand she represents and embarrasses an entire profession!

Never before have I been so embarrassed by the fact that I graduated from ERAU, and that's saying something. The fact that this display of airmanship, that is frankly antithetical to the way real airline pilots are trained in almost every way, was allowed to be filmed let alone aired is, in a word, breathtaking.

Everything in this video is a fantastic example of what NOT to do:

DON'T forget to fly the airplane first. That includes NOT activating the stick shaker and almost stalling, and then almost secondary stalling, a swept wing jet at high altitude. For those that aren't familiar, the rattling sound at 0:49 is the stick shaker activating to alert the crew that the airplane is close to stalling.

DON'T fly an unstabilized approach and risk a single engine go-around, or worse, a crash. The "Sink Rate" call at 1:49 means she's descending too fast, too close to the ground. The necessity to land ASAP does not also mean it's necessary to further compromise safety.

DON'T call them "crash cars." Especially to passengers.

It's funny that she says towards the end that all she's doing is "thinking about putting the airplane down safely." Unfortunately, she's not thinking about it hard enough - stick shakers and GPWS callouts had no place in this emergency. Had this been real life, she would have taken a serious but manageable situation and turned it into a much more serious, and potentially much more fatal, situation with the safe outcome of the flight seriously in question. This is a terrible example to set and I would sure hope that this isn't what people are getting for their $200,000 in tuition these days. I mean, ERAU is an enormous ripoff to begin with, but to pay that kind of money to learn THIS sloppy, unprofessional, nonsense?? They should be ashamed.

HOWEVER here is a bit from the opposite side of the table
Jesus christ are you guys really trusting this highly chopped up and edited video to accurately portray her abilities as a pilot?

I'd be willing to bet that once ABC saw how uneventful the emergency descent was, they asked her to perform some "exciting" maneuvers that they used to spice up this ridiculous 3 minute video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EaQLca9rJY They could have used THIS as to show how it happens IRL but nooo they needed to have all the drama and such for ratings.


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