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Old 09-24-2021, 08:06 AM
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Jeeeeesus, who cares? How's the pay and QOL?
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Old 09-24-2021, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211 View Post
I am. according to jaxsurf the Airbus is 1980’s technology (which it is), therefore it’s a POS.

so I am, actually, flying the old school way.
Oh really, I said that? Please show me exactly where I said that.
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Old 09-24-2021, 08:22 AM
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Oh really, I said that? Please show me exactly where I said that.
you are right that was David Puddy that said that. My apologies...But, then you did call the other plane a POS.
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Old 09-24-2021, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211 View Post
you are right that was David Puddy that said that. My apologies...But, then you did call the other plane a POS.
I do in fact think the 737 is a POS, for myriad reasons, and hope to never fly it!
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Old 09-24-2021, 04:51 PM
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link to a positive review of Breeze by (who knows what kind of) journalist:

https://www.airlinereporter.com/2021...-airways-2021/
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Old 09-24-2021, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jaxsurf View Post
I do in fact think the 737 is a POS, for myriad reasons, and hope to never fly it!
It is beyond pathetic and pitiful this BS is now carrying more/same amount of pax as the 757 with 1000000% less performance. Fml.

I was in a UA jumpseat on a fully loaded -800
maybe -900 DEN-LAX a 3-4 years ago. Early October day mid 70s no wind. 100% full as I was in the JS. Calm winds. This F’n thing used at least 10k of runway to get airborne. FO even looked a bit concerned. He and the CA talked about it a bit at cruise. FO (his leg) thinks it may have switched to a few kt tailwind during TO hence the even $hittier perf than he’s used to (assuming).

I could absolutely care less whatever Aerodata or Boeing says. I witnessed how atrocious climb perf was that day with 2 engines. Without any doubt we would
have been a smoking hole in the ground had we blown one at V1.

If Boeing had re-engined (NEO) and update glass/avionics of the 75, they would have killed it. As god awful as Boeing is with the 73, they have, in fact made some of the most badass high performing airplanes in history. Just embarrassing and pathetic they sucked so much WN and legacy delta icks instead of manning up for a clean sheet design/replacement.
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Old 09-24-2021, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CAirBear View Post
It is beyond pathetic and pitiful this BS is now carrying more/same amount of pax as the 757 with 1000000% less performance. Fml.

I was in a UA jumpseat on a fully loaded -800
maybe -900 DEN-LAX a 3-4 years ago. Early October day mid 70s no wind. 100% full as I was in the JS. Calm winds. This F’n thing used at least 10k of runway to get airborne. FO even looked a bit concerned. He and the CA talked about it a bit at cruise. FO (his leg) thinks it may have switched to a few kt tailwind during TO hence the even $hittier perf than he’s used to (assuming).

I could absolutely care less whatever Aerodata or Boeing says. I witnessed how atrocious climb perf was that day with 2 engines. Without any doubt we would
have been a smoking hole in the ground had we blown one at V1.

If Boeing had re-engined (NEO) and update glass/avionics of the 75, they would have killed it. As god awful as Boeing is with the 73, they have, in fact made some of the most badass high performing airplanes in history. Just embarrassing and pathetic they sucked so much WN and legacy delta icks instead of manning up for a clean sheet design/replacement.
What is United and Southwest Airlines thinking! I can’t believe they fly all the 737 variants out of DEN 365 days/year. The humanity!
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Old 09-25-2021, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ElCaribe View Post
What is United and Southwest Airlines thinking! I can’t believe they fly all the 737 variants out of DEN 365 days/year. The humanity!
exactly! so many aerospace engineers and test pilots on APC.
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Old 09-25-2021, 07:12 AM
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exactly! so many aerospace engineers and test pilots on APC.
Don't forget part-time economists and airline execs. If the 757 was so great, it would have sold better, and would still be in production.
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Old 09-25-2021, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CAirBear View Post
It is beyond pathetic and pitiful this BS is now carrying more/same amount of pax as the 757 with 1000000% less performance. Fml.

I was in a UA jumpseat on a fully loaded -800
maybe -900 DEN-LAX a 3-4 years ago. Early October day mid 70s no wind. 100% full as I was in the JS. Calm winds. This F’n thing used at least 10k of runway to get airborne. FO even looked a bit concerned. He and the CA talked about it a bit at cruise. FO (his leg) thinks it may have switched to a few kt tailwind during TO hence the even $hittier perf than he’s used to (assuming).

I could absolutely care less whatever Aerodata or Boeing says. I witnessed how atrocious climb perf was that day with 2 engines. Without any doubt we would
have been a smoking hole in the ground had we blown one at V1.

If Boeing had re-engined (NEO) and update glass/avionics of the 75, they would have killed it. As god awful as Boeing is with the 73, they have, in fact made some of the most badass high performing airplanes in history. Just embarrassing and pathetic they sucked so much WN and legacy delta icks instead of manning up for a clean sheet design/replacement.
There’s a little thing called reduced thrust takeoffs. Ever heard of them?
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