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Old 11-26-2021, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy View Post
Cool. What union is that?
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Old 11-28-2021, 05:51 PM
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5 years from now $192 first year Capt and $89 first year FO on the 190. the 220 rates are anyone’s guess. That’s what the pilot group is asking for from what I heard.
How exactly are they asking?
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Old 11-28-2021, 05:58 PM
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How exactly are they asking?

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Old 11-28-2021, 07:18 PM
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I worked at an airline with no union. We, senior guys, asked for a pay raise when we hit a certain metric. The owner said okay.
then when we hit the metric that same owner said " I never said that". When the CP laid the letter the owner signed on the desk the owner said " I never signed that".
so good luck with what you're asking.
Btw the CP and most check airman quit over it and still no raise.
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Old 11-29-2021, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover View Post
I worked at an airline with no union. We, senior guys, asked for a pay raise when we hit a certain metric. The owner said okay.
then when we hit the metric that same owner said " I never said that". When the CP laid the letter the owner signed on the desk the owner said " I never signed that".
so good luck with what you're asking.
Btw the CP and most check airman quit over it and still no raise.
What airline was that? And how is a union supposed to solve the problem of a CEO who denies the validity of their own signature? It’s not any more difficult to deny that you signed a CBA than it is to deny that you signed any other agreement.
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Old 11-29-2021, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BobSacamano View Post
What airline was that? And how is a union supposed to solve the problem of a CEO who denies the validity of their own signature? It’s not any more difficult to deny that you signed a CBA than it is to deny that you signed any other agreement.
An union would have recourse through the grievance process.
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Old 11-29-2021, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BobSacamano View Post
What airline was that? And how is a union supposed to solve the problem of a CEO who denies the validity of their own signature? It’s not any more difficult to deny that you signed a CBA than it is to deny that you signed any other agreement.
I would think that a CBA is signed by more people than just the CEO. Either way, for a company that does do that, they must either not have much business, or they have a core group they can depend on to take it raw when needed to absorb the sick calls that must come in very frequently. Either way, that kind of non-sense is the reason there is a pilot "shortage".
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Old 11-29-2021, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by chihuahua View Post
I would think that a CBA is signed by more people than just the CEO. Either way, for a company that does do that, they must either not have much business, or they have a core group they can depend on to take it raw when needed to absorb the sick calls that must come in very frequently. Either way, that kind of non-sense is the reason there is a pilot "shortage".
it didn't work too well for them. They are no longer in business
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Old 11-29-2021, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BobSacamano View Post
What airline was that? And how is a union supposed to solve the problem of a CEO who denies the validity of their own signature? It’s not any more difficult to deny that you signed a CBA than it is to deny that you signed any other agreement.
You really don’t understand the process of getting a CBA.
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Old 12-02-2021, 08:24 AM
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Live next to GSP and was quite excited to see a e190 with a certain livery! The flight was breeze 6400 from Norfolk to Greenville Spartanburg, would this just be them testing out a possible route? Or is there a new destination?
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