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Old 12-24-2021, 04:13 PM
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I hear through the grapevine Breeze is now actively pursing Australians whom they plan to sponsor on work Visas to come fly here. Are things really that desperate they need to bring in overseas pilots? Sure, the money isn't mind blowing but...really? I know plenty of local guys and gals who have apps in and not getting a bite.
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Old 12-24-2021, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PorkyMcFuzz View Post
I hear through the grapevine Breeze is now actively pursing Australians whom they plan to sponsor on work Visas to come fly here. Are things really that desperate they need to bring in overseas pilots? Sure, the money isn't mind blowing but...really? I know plenty of local guys and gals who have apps in and not getting a bite.
Who knows? Wouldnít surprise me considering their ambitious growth plan. Considering the pilot shortage and the massive hiring at all of the other majors/LCCs, I guess that move wouldnít shock me if you look at it from a management perspective. What would you do if you were a startup with a big growth plan in a highly competitive labor market? Offering Delta or JB pilot wages as a startup probably not feasible initially. Not an easy situation - Iíd rather have Americans flying the airplanes. Didnít Skywest hire a bunch of Aussies at one point too?
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Old 12-24-2021, 06:08 PM
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My days in this career are numbered, so DEC is a very attractive option, but as Marg said the washout rate is great, and this is a new aircraft for me. The money at Breeze will be better for the short term but in the long term JB is better. JB will be a downgrade and a significant paycut but the better pay is at JB in the long term. JB should be easy as I have thousands of hours in their equipment.

I am planning JB, but I wanted to get some more opinionsÖ
If youíre late in your career, wouldnít you want 16% DC into your 401k? I donít know what the DEC pays at Breeze, but Iím sure you could easily make that on 3rd year Airbus pay at JB. Youíre comparing a startup/borderline regional airline to a major airline with a good contract. Also, unless you have major issues, United is hiring anyone who walks in the door right now. Itís never been easier to get a legacy job.
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Old 12-24-2021, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy View Post
Who knows? Wouldnít surprise me considering their ambitious growth plan. Considering the pilot shortage and the massive hiring at all of the other majors/LCCs, I guess that move wouldnít shock me if you look at it from a management perspective. What would you do if you were a startup with a big growth plan in a highly competitive labor market? Offering Delta or JB pilot wages as a startup probably not feasible initially. Not an easy situation - Iíd rather have Americans flying the airplanes. Didnít Skywest hire a bunch of Aussies at one point too?
Very true. Just seems like a strange move right now to go for foreign pilots given many regional pilots I know personally would love to work for Breeze, it's just they aren't being given interviews for whatever reason.

Yeah I believe OO was at some point, I was told it was discontinued due to issues with verification of pilot experience/hours and some suspected logbook fraud from some of the overseas guys. Was easier to just terminate the program. OO has waiting lists for training into mid 2022 so doesn't seem to have affected them at this stage.
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Old 12-25-2021, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins View Post
If youíre late in your career, wouldnít you want 16% DC into your 401k? I donít know what the DEC pays at Breeze, but Iím sure you could easily make that on 3rd year Airbus pay at JB. Youíre comparing a startup/borderline regional airline to a major airline with a good contract. Also, unless you have major issues, United is hiring anyone who walks in the door right now. Itís never been easier to get a legacy job.
I didn't think of that 16% DC, that's a good point.

https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...breeze_airways

the pay has improved and it's more that JB FO pay.

unfortunately although I've had my application in for over a decade and recently constantly updated, none of the big boys called. perhaps I'm overqualified
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Old 12-25-2021, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandpiper View Post
I didn't think of that 16% DC, that's a good point.

https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...breeze_airways

the pay has improved and it's more that JB FO pay.

unfortunately although I've had my application in for over a decade and recently constantly updated, none of the big boys called. perhaps I'm overqualified
You made it seem like you had offers from both. I guess then take the first one that calls?
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Old 12-25-2021, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by IamEssential View Post
You made it seem like you had offers from both. I guess then take the first one that calls?
they actually both called on the same day, hours apart... JB was first though

and to make it more interesting, both class dates start within a couple of weeks of each other. JB first again
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Old 12-25-2021, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandpiper View Post
they actually both called on the same day, hours apart... JB was first though

and to make it more interesting, both class dates start within a couple of weeks of each other. JB first again
OK, what's the definition of "first called"... jk, nobody answer that or we'll have to start a new thread
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Old 12-25-2021, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger View Post
OK, what's the definition of "first called"... jk, nobody answer that or we'll have to start a new thread
Is an email for a screening a "call"? Or is "a call" only an offer for a class date? What about CJO, does it count?
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Old 12-26-2021, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by LowcountryPlt View Post
Yeah they were exposed! Ö. By the pilot shortage. Donít worry Iím sure this would never happen at a real airline.

Your post reads like a jealous kindergartener who sees a ball the other kid had an wants it. Why has Breeze struck a nerve with you? Like, your post doesnít come close to resembling a cautionary statement, just weird jealousy.
You havenít even gotten on property yet and youíre already a company cheerleader? My goodness. You should be as equally upset as the line pilots are. Except that one Aussie who wants to get his friends over here.
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