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[Breeze] Airways
01-09-2022, 01:09 PM
#2363
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Originally Posted by fastneat
Our Jumpsest Agreement is now official with them. Starting tomorrow, they are available for us to list.
Someone was asking a week ago if we had an Agreement with them..
Someone was asking a week ago if we had an Agreement with them..
01-09-2022, 03:59 PM
#2366
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
No, they don’t. Still garbage. And they were paid for with profit sharing if I’m not mistaken.
A320 operator)? Maybe we should start comparing apples to apples? Not saying any of them pay great or even close to great - yet. Will probably see several Breeze pilots leave for greener pastures if things don’t improve.
Again, probably makes more sense to compare the Breeze pay with JB and the legacies when Breeze has more than 50 airplanes….
01-09-2022, 04:34 PM
#2367
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
How do the rates compare to those of other 2021 startups like Avelo and Global X (ACMI
A320 operator)? Maybe we should start comparing apples to apples? Not saying any of them pay great or even close to great - yet. Will probably see several Breeze pilots leave for greener pastures if things don’t improve.
Again, probably makes more sense to compare the Breeze pay with JB and the legacies when Breeze has more than 50 airplanes….
A320 operator)? Maybe we should start comparing apples to apples? Not saying any of them pay great or even close to great - yet. Will probably see several Breeze pilots leave for greener pastures if things don’t improve.
Again, probably makes more sense to compare the Breeze pay with JB and the legacies when Breeze has more than 50 airplanes….
01-09-2022, 04:59 PM
#2368
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Does breeze pay less for airplanes from Airbus because they are new? Do they pay less for fuel? Do they pay less to paint their airplanes than jetblue or southwest does? Do they pay less for catering? No…they pay market rate. The one thing they pay less for is labor. Why should they get a pass on that? If they aren’t a viable business if paying market rate for labor, then they deserve to fail and Trent Porter deserves to be unemployed. “Success” and growing while chipping away at market share from other airlines (that pay market rate for labor) while being subsidized by their own underpaid labor is garbage and nobody should support that, startup or not. Especially since pilots aren’t getting any equity in the company. If there were some IOUs (stock options, profit sharing, etc), it’d be different. There isn’t. Same goes for Avelo and any other garbage bottom feeder airline.
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01-09-2022, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Does breeze pay less for airplanes from Airbus because they are new? Do they pay less for fuel? Do they pay less to paint their airplanes than jetblue or southwest does? Do they pay less for catering? No…they pay market rate. The one thing they pay less for is labor. Why should they get a pass on that? If they aren’t a viable business if paying market rate for labor, then they deserve to fail and Trent Porter deserves to be unemployed. “Success” and growing while chipping away at market share from other airlines (that pay market rate for labor) while being subsidized by their own underpaid labor is garbage and nobody should support that, startup or not. Especially since pilots aren’t getting any equity in the company. If there were some IOUs (stock options, profit sharing, etc), it’d be different. There isn’t. Same goes for Avelo and any other garbage bottom feeder airline.
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