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Old 08-11-2022, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose View Post
Most ppl came to breeze because they were told this was the new JetBlue but with virgin America culture. 50 % of the original guys moved on, the ones who stayed, either live in base or are trying to ride the seniority train to see where it takes them. there has been a few who turned down jobs at UA and AA to stay. Problem with breeze is that seniority doesnít mean anything unless youíre the top 2 guys in base. Itís the allegiant model to a T, a bunch of small bases all over the place. The top 2 guys have amazing QOL. the rest, not really, even though they might be top 10% in the company. Breeze is not going under but getting bought is a real possibility. Itís pretty obvious that management just wants to cash in during IPO, after that most of them will likely leave.
Yea, that's fair. When I started researching Breeze I definitely saw the Allegiant comparison, with the major difference being the premium heavy cabin and the potential for overseas routes. I'm in New England and PVD and BOS are about the same distance from my house so its them or B6. The biggest temptation with breeze with seniority since I know the B6 senority list is going to get a lot longer here soon.
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Old 08-11-2022, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jchollywood11 View Post
I moved to Breeze because they promised my family an unparalleled QOL if we were just willing to relocate. I left Breeze because it wasnít the case. It wasnít even a week into us having relocated from TX to FL when they announced the FL base (TPA) would become an all A220 domicile. What stinks is it came from the C-suite of the airline. Middle management either didnít know or deserved an Academy award performance.

The promised quick upgrade, high credit day turns only became ď3-5 day chartersĒ with lots of days spent up N in the cold at hotels when they realized they could turn a buck. But, they didnít have the infrastructure or the people to pull it off so I know a lot of the charter customers were very displeased with the thrown together product we were doing. They even tried to lower our 121 service volume to do more charters which was really concerning to me. I get trying to make more money, it just was further proof to me personally the vision I had been sold was not the true vision of the airline long-term. Another year like last and Breeze will likely be blackballed from charters as universities will warn each other to steer clear because the extra dollars to have another airline do it the right way are worth it. Make no mistake, middle management will try to make you feel appreciated but upper management rules the company and begs middle management to try to clean up their messes. I went around the same time as 2 other friends from the DFW area. We all could not have been more excited and none of us lasted more than 6 months before taking CJOs elsewhere.

Do yourself a favor, wait out the card drive. It needs to pass to give the pilots a voice and to put some ink to the verbal promises Breeze loves to throw out and then change. However, Breeze also might become a terrible place to work if it passes. The video of Neeleman begging the pilots to give Breeze a chance is comical. How about those of us who did Mr. DN? How about the ones who literally had the vision you sold them completely thrown away because you wanted to make a few more bucks? I donít see ALPA passing being received well. Either stay where youíre at and wait this out, hear how it goes and how management reacts. Or, if youíre like me and time is on your side, go to an established airline and build seniority the natural way. I learned quickly the risk was not worth the reward. I sleep well at night seeing my 401k increase greatly and my seniority go up steadily at my new home. Hope this helps.
I appreciate the response! This helps a lot, and thankfully I have the time to wait and see what happens in the upcoming months.
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Old 08-11-2022, 01:31 PM
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just waiting on the ALPA welcome letter.
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Old 08-11-2022, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose View Post
just waiting on the ALPA welcome letter.
Whoop whoop! Itís being mailed out as we speak!
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Old 08-11-2022, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose View Post
just waiting on the ALPA welcome letter.
I take it the pilots officially voted ALPA in?
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Old 08-11-2022, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fly4fun14 View Post
I take it the pilots officially voted ALPA in?
Bet Neeleman is thrilled Ö.
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Old 08-11-2022, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fly4fun14 View Post
I take it the pilots officially voted ALPA in?
https://thepointsguy.com/news/breeze-airways-pilots-alpa-union/amp/
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Old 08-12-2022, 09:18 AM
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Congrats on ALPA.. I know there is less flexibility both ways, but imo it was necessary
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Old 08-12-2022, 09:52 AM
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The BPC was creating bylaws and would've done the same thing that ALPA will do, only without taking the extra time and money that ALPA requires. The only thing you got from voting in ALPA, was voting in a 2% tax to be taken from each paycheck. Way to go guys 🙄

Hope that extra $4k - $6k+ a year is worth it.
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Old 08-12-2022, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AF2AL View Post
The BPC was creating bylaws and would've done the same thing that ALPA will do, only without taking the extra time and money that ALPA requires. The only thing you got from voting in ALPA, was voting in a 2% tax to be taken from each paycheck. Way to go guys 🙄

Hope that extra $4k - $6k+ a year is worth it.
was BPC an actual union?
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