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Old 11-02-2022, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by holygrail View Post
Hi, Iíve been absent from this game for many years and considering getting back into the airline game. Iíve got 23 years as a professional pilot but have flown corporate for the last 10. Needless to say Iím no longer a young hotshot with a wife and girlfriend on separate coasts. My kids are raised, my (only) wife is still with me and my cars are paid for. Itís obvious that this world has changed drastically since I left as there were no startups, DECíS or committing stipends in my heyday. The DEC thing has peaked my interest both at Breeze and Avelo but Iím curious if Iíd be the only gray haired captain on the property? Are most of you guys early/mid career? Just out of the regionals? Sounds like the daily grind is manageable at both but Iím curious what you all think?

I commuted to SLC WAY back when but Iím curious how a KPVU commute would work? There are very few flights there! With a PVU base, why is the training CTR in SLC?

is there actually a commuter stipend?

Is the 15~18 days off realistic?

How does holiday flying work?

Am I crazy to think that the DEC option is the best case for a guy to finish his career?

any positive advice is welcome.
There are a lot of older guys here. Even a lot of the Legacy group (the first pilots hired here in/prior to 2021) is 50+. To s of DECs for the A220 weíre guys who took early outs during Covid from SWA, DAL, JB, etc.

15-18 days off is realistic as a line holder. 12-15 days off on reserve (12 is the min off guarantee, but we donít have flights on certain days so youíll be off a little more).

PVU would be a 2 leg commute unless you live in Vegas or San Fransisco. We fly there from PVU, so your best bet would be to go to either of those and ride breeze, or SLC and rent a car.

Training center is in SLC because the company is headquartered there.

There is no more commuter stipend

Holiday pay pays 125% (or could be 150, but I think itís 125%). This year we have no flights on thanksgiving day, so everyone is off for that this year
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Old 11-02-2022, 06:22 PM
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Can someone confirm that Breeze has 40 options on the A220s on top of the 80 firm orders? I canít find this info online.

Also, what year are those 80 orders out to?
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Old 11-02-2022, 06:42 PM
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Can someone confirm that Breeze has 40 options on the A220s on top of the 80 firm orders? I canít find this info online.

Also, what year are those 80 orders out to?
Yea thereís options for more. Itís supposed to be at least 1 plane per month depending on Airbus ability to deliver.
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Old 11-02-2022, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by holygrail View Post
Hi, Iíve been absent from this game for many years and considering getting back into the airline game. Iíve got 23 years as a professional pilot but have flown corporate for the last 10. Needless to say Iím no longer a young hotshot with a wife and girlfriend on separate coasts. My kids are raised, my (only) wife is still with me and my cars are paid for. Itís obvious that this world has changed drastically since I left as there were no startups, DECíS or committing stipends in my heyday. The DEC thing has peaked my interest both at Breeze and Avelo but Iím curious if Iíd be the only gray haired captain on the property? Are most of you guys early/mid career? Just out of the regionals? Sounds like the daily grind is manageable at both but Iím curious what you all think?

I commuted to SLC WAY back when but Iím curious how a KPVU commute would work? There are very few flights there! With a PVU base, why is the training CTR in SLC?

is there actually a commuter stipend?

Is the 15~18 days off realistic?

How does holiday flying work?

Am I crazy to think that the DEC option is the best case for a guy to finish his career?

any positive advice is welcome.

As a DEC youíll be on reserve with 12 off indefinitely with very little say on schedules. Unless you live in base you wonít have much of a life. You can commute for day trips but youíll be home like 2 days a week. Not trying to be a downer, itís just how it is. Theyíre working on ways to make it better for commuters.
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Old 11-03-2022, 05:28 AM
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charter for DEC I was told is junior. That would be best the option for you. Unless things have changed.
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Old 11-03-2022, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by holygrail View Post
Hi, Iíve been absent from this game for many years and considering getting back into the airline game. Iíve got 23 years as a professional pilot but have flown corporate for the last 10. Needless to say Iím no longer a young hotshot with a wife and girlfriend on separate coasts. My kids are raised, my (only) wife is still with me and my cars are paid for. Itís obvious that this world has changed drastically since I left as there were no startups, DECíS or committing stipends in my heyday. The DEC thing has peaked my interest both at Breeze and Avelo but Iím curious if Iíd be the only gray haired captain on the property? Are most of you guys early/mid career? Just out of the regionals? Sounds like the daily grind is manageable at both but Iím curious what you all think?

I commuted to SLC WAY back when but Iím curious how a KPVU commute would work? There are very few flights there! With a PVU base, why is the training CTR in SLC?

is there actually a commuter stipend?

Is the 15~18 days off realistic?

How does holiday flying work?

Am I crazy to think that the DEC option is the best case for a guy to finish his career?

any positive advice is welcome.
Breeze is no longer hiring DECís. That could change with attrition or with more A/C being acquired.

Most guys are probably mid career, they either lived through the lost decade, theyíve passed up a job at a major or theyíre trying to see this thing through and havenít applied anywhere.

PVU commute would be horrible, as you have stated. The training center is in SLC because thatís where the company is headquartered.

Commuter stipend went away. You can choose to have funds held (tax free) to buy airline tickets and hotels.

15-18 days off a month is realistic on the Ejet and if you live in base.

Holiday flying is at 200%.

Iím getting the feeling you donít want to sit in the right seat because youíre a little older. I would maybe then look at another corporate job. Avelo was doing DECís as well (Iím not sure they still are) but they seem to be struggling over there. The start up game is tough and breeze has had hard times but itís certainly improving. The best option would be to go to a major and hopefully not commute to finish your career. But that means youíll be flying right seat for a year maybe 2. Hope this helps. Good luck.
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Old 11-03-2022, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose View Post
Breeze is no longer hiring DECís. That could change with attrition or with more A/C being acquired.

Most guys are probably mid career, they either lived through the lost decade, theyíve passed up a job at a major or theyíre trying to see this thing through and havenít applied anywhere.

PVU commute would be horrible, as you have stated. The training center is in SLC because thatís where the company is headquartered.

Commuter stipend went away. You can choose to have funds held (tax free) to buy airline tickets and hotels.

15-18 days off a month is realistic on the Ejet and if you live in base.

Holiday flying is at 200%.

Iím getting the feeling you donít want to sit in the right seat because youíre a little older. I would maybe then look at another corporate job. Avelo was doing DECís as well (Iím not sure they still are) but they seem to be struggling over there. The start up game is tough and breeze has had hard times but itís certainly improving. The best option would be to go to a major and hopefully not commute to finish your career. But that means youíll be flying right seat for a year maybe 2. Hope this helps. Good luck.
I understand Tampa is ďseniorĒ but how long would it take to get there with the new A220ís expected to be brought on the property?
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Old 11-03-2022, 06:57 AM
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I understand Tampa is ďseniorĒ but how long would it take to get there with the new A220ís expected to be brought on the property?
I wouldnít come to breeze for the TPA base. Itís senior on the A220 and thereís currently 11 legacy ejet pilots who are bidding for TPA A220 slots. Theyíre guaranteed into the base which will only make it more senior. If you want a TPA jr base, check out F9.
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Old 11-03-2022, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose View Post
I wouldnít come to breeze for the TPA base. Itís senior on the A220 and thereís currently 11 legacy ejet pilots who are bidding for TPA A220 slots. Theyíre guaranteed into the base which will only make it more senior. If you want a TPA jr base, check out F9.
Appreciate that info!
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Old 11-03-2022, 08:31 AM
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Does anyone here know how hard it is for a new hire to get charter operations? I would be a commuter and would hope to get charter as soon as possible.

Also, I read some posts on the difficulty of the flight training without prior 121 experience. This would be my first 121 job, but I do have military rotary training. Is there anyone with a military fight background (specifically Rotary) that can speak to how much more difficult we are talking?
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