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Old 01-22-2023, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Rcordeiro122592 View Post
Is there any concerns with Breezes profitability, there are a couple articles floating around saying Breeze is burning through cash and Avelo is the more likely candidate to make it.
No concerns at all. iTs A dAvE nEeLeMaN aIrLiNe!!!!111
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Old 01-22-2023, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rcordeiro122592 View Post
Is there any concerns with Breezes profitability, there are a couple articles floating around saying Breeze is burning through cash and Avelo is the more likely candidate to make it.
Most here at breeze donít worry about profitability, itís going to come. The product is solid when things are running smoothly. I believe weíre at 70 ish % LF. Ppl will hate on NeELeMan but heís still worth 400M and this is the most well funded start up in history. If he needs more cash, heíll get it. If I were to choose between the 2 , Iíd bet on breeze. Our product is better and our growth trumps avelos by a large margin.
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Old 01-23-2023, 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Rcordeiro122592 View Post
Is there any concerns with Breezes profitability, there are a couple articles floating around saying Breeze is burning through cash and Avelo is the more likely candidate to make it.
Not really. You know you have something good when passengers are thanking you right there on the plane for being there. It’s one of those products where if you try it, you’re going to come back. This year the company is planning on focusing making the experience more consistent. There have definitely been growing pains. But overall, it’s a product people like. January is a slow month but for last several months most flights I’ve had had been mostly full.
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Old 01-23-2023, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by shortspatula View Post
Not really. You know you have something good when passengers are thanking you right there on the plane for being there. Itís one of those products where if you try it, youíre going to come back. This year the company is planning on focusing making the experience more consistent. There have definitely been growing pains. But overall, itís a product people like. January is a slow month but for last several months most flights Iíve had had been mostly full.

thanks for the insight! Iím trying to make the decision to go to Breeze from a LCC (I know usually not the typical career direction) pending how quickly I can upgrade and get PVD as a base.
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Old 01-23-2023, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Rcordeiro122592 View Post
Is there any concerns with Breezes profitability, there are a couple articles floating around saying Breeze is burning through cash and Avelo is the more likely candidate to make it.
Well donít be shy, link the article!!!

Initial investment costs of starting an airline are HUGE. So itís obvious that Breeze is burning through cash. Avelo is most likely doing the same. The difference between the two is that Breeze has built a charter business on the side and it is actually doing well. Very well. The profit margin on charter is huge, and that money funds the airlines growth.
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Old 01-23-2023, 06:36 AM
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Worst case scenario Breeze goes BK and gets bought by a bigger airline looking to grow. Planes and pilots will go to the new carrier.
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Old 01-23-2023, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage View Post
Well donít be shy, link the article!!!

Initial investment costs of starting an airline are HUGE. So itís obvious that Breeze is burning through cash. Avelo is most likely doing the same. The difference between the two is that Breeze has built a charter business on the side and it is actually doing well. Very well. The profit margin on charter is huge, and that money funds the airlines growth.
-110% profit margin.....

https://aviationweek.com/air-transpo...mising-outlook
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Old 01-23-2023, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206 View Post
Worst case scenario Breeze goes BK and gets bought by a bigger airline looking to grow. Planes and pilots will go to the new carrier.
The worst case is it ceases operations unexpectedly and you're out of a job. You'll likely get hired somewhere quickly but losing the breeze bet will put you several thousand numbers behind at your next carrier. Don't assume you'll just be bought and merged, or even stapled.
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Old 01-23-2023, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206 View Post
Worst case scenario Breeze goes BK and gets bought by a bigger airline looking to grow. Planes and pilots will go to the new carrier.
Donít make life-choices with this kind of logic.
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Old 01-23-2023, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206 View Post
Worst case scenario Breeze goes BK and gets bought by a bigger airline looking to grow. Planes and pilots will go to the new carrier.
Breeze does not have much in the way of assets to speak to a buy out. Slots? no Gates? no Long time customer base? no

Better to let it die and pick up scraps at a fire sale (including the Pilots at year zero pay)
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