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Old 01-29-2023, 07:16 AM
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In 2002 Jet Blue had a operating income of 105 million and net profit of 54 million at a time when virtually every other airline was losing money and yields were low. Currently yields are very strong and most airlines expect a substantial profit next year.
Jet Blue published detailed financials. Breeze so far has not.
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Old 01-29-2023, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Talkinsmack View Post
Have you spoken to anyone on the A220? Every commuter is ****ed!
There are months, yes months with the schedules we have that we get home rarely. Some months even with 12-15 days off, I have been home with 3-5 days off without a commute leg. Meaning many off days are commuting to and from. We start early before 7 am, end after 10 pm. So work days are not commutable. Heard we just lost a A220 Captain going to eagle. Many of us are coming up to the “give it a year” mark. With big pay and quick upgrade times at the majors, there are lots of rumblings.

If you move into base, it’s a fantastic job!!!!
We were just given that survey asking where we all live when not flying, so I’m sure they’re looking into ways to making it better.
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Old 01-29-2023, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
In 2002 Jet Blue had a operating income of 105 million and net profit of 54 million at a time when virtually every other airline was losing money and yields were low. Currently yields are very strong and most airlines expect a substantial profit next year.
Jet Blue published detailed financials. Breeze so far has not.
Jet Blue started in a time when pilots were starving and jumping at any available job. Airlines were deferring airframe deliveries due to the situation at the time. This time Neeleman has to fight for pilots and fight for airframe deliveries. If we're going to compare, let's make it apples to apples, not apples to basketballs.
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Old 01-30-2023, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot View Post
Jet Blue started in a time when pilots were starving and jumping at any available job. Airlines were deferring airframe deliveries due to the situation at the time. This time Neeleman has to fight for pilots and fight for airframe deliveries. If we're going to compare, let's make it apples to apples, not apples to basketballs.
Yeah he’s really putting on a fight for pilots
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Old 01-30-2023, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jdub2 View Post
Yeah he’s really putting on a fight for pilots
I don't know if he is or isn't, but the market for pilots and airframes is drastically different from late 2001, so not a comparable situation.
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Old 01-30-2023, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Jdub2 View Post
Yeah he’s really putting on a fight for pilots
Realistically, can he even compete?? A legacy job will always trump a LCC. Breeze could pay DL rates and ppl would still jump ship, for the name on the side of the airplane , heavy flying, etc…
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Old 01-30-2023, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose View Post
Realistically, can he even compete?? A legacy job will always trump a LCC. Breeze could pay DL rates and ppl would still jump ship, for the name on the side of the airplane , heavy flying, etc…

Sure… for those who have shiny jet syndrome anyways
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Old 01-30-2023, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TravisJohn View Post
Sure… for those who have shiny jet syndrome anyways
Sure... If by SJS you mean vastly better contract anyways.
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Old 01-30-2023, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Swapapotamoose View Post
Realistically, can he even compete?? A legacy job will always trump a LCC. Breeze could pay DL rates and ppl would still jump ship, for the name on the side of the airplane , heavy flying, etc…
You honestly think that? Oh boy.
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Old 01-31-2023, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by shortspatula View Post
You honestly think that? Oh boy.
I would. For the stability and international nonrev network if nothing else.
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