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Old 02-09-2020, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeirum View Post
The place hasn't even flown a passenger yet and you are talking M&A's already? What's wrong with you people!?!
Because pilots willing to work for a startup have to be thinking about it.
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Old 02-09-2020, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Dude View Post
I know you jest but some early Breeze pilots undoubtedly have this in the back of their minds. No way in hell they'd be allowed a ratio merge though, zipped in with 20 year captains. Won't happen, not ever. Slotted in with 5 year E190 captains maybe, get a huge pay and retirement bump and they'd better be happy with that.

Really? Where did the 10 year Captains show up on the Alaska seniority list?

2006 hires placed in front of 1998 hires.
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Old 02-09-2020, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SFA320 View Post
Breeze’s hourly rate is no where near ULCC or LCC average. I’m sure it’s the same for retirement as well.
Right now but if they build a pay scale with 25-30 steps instead of the 12ish year steps most airlines have these days if their year 5 pays what spirit year 1 pays they would likely keep people reasonably well this is in the longer term obviously.
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Old 02-09-2020, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Texasbound View Post
Really? Where did the 10 year Captains show up on the Alaska seniority list?

2006 hires placed in front of 1998 hires.
ALK and VA were closer to same size pilot groups, same size planes, same size pay checks. Not the same, just closer to the same than JBLU and EZ will be for decades. There wouldn't be anything close to a top down zipper. E190/A220 merge maybe, which still means a 5 to 7 yr longevity bonus for EZ. Nothing close to the top of the list though. That's all I meant in response to St. Nick.
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Old 02-09-2020, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB View Post
They will not open bases in cheaper cities JUST for the sake of affordability to new hires. That’s just..... comical
where is the salary posted?
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Old 02-10-2020, 09:03 PM
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With any luck It will go the way of the dirigible.....Up in smoke.
Another sleazy bottom feeder is not what any pilot should hope for
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Old 02-10-2020, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by salmiaboy View Post
where is the salary posted?
Haven’t seen it anywhere. Interesting since they want to start flights in May.

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Old 02-11-2020, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 9mikemike View Post
With any luck It will go the way of the dirigible.....Up in smoke.
Another sleazy bottom feeder is not what any pilot should hope for
said some about B6 back then. Would be interesting to see Neeleman fail once, would be an interesting sign of the times if he doesn't succeed again.
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Old 02-11-2020, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 9mikemike View Post
With any luck It will go the way of the dirigible.....Up in smoke.
Another sleazy bottom feeder is not what any pilot should hope for

Or you could actually look at the BIG picture and hope that it taps a hitherto untapped market and is successful, where a thousand guy/gals can earn competitive wages and by not being available to compete for jobs at your airline give you even more leverage than the retirement wave already will.
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Old 02-11-2020, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 9mikemike View Post
With any luck It will go the way of the dirigible.....Up in smoke.
Another sleazy bottom feeder is not what any pilot should hope for
At least it isn’t outsourcing its RJ flying and still offers better wages than regionals. Not sure what people would expect from a start up flying E195s. I would think market forces will pressure wages (or turnover) up. If it becomes like a regional with regards to turnover, I doubt that’d be sustainable. If people are happy there for whatever reason and want to stay and not move on, good for them. I don’t wish failure on any US airline and fellow pilots.
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