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SUX4U 06-19-2018 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450 (Post 2616813)
ual, dal, aa, swa, ups, & fdx

Gotcha! Thank you.

MaCrOs 06-19-2018 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by dawgdriver (Post 2616991)
Wanna attract pilots? Just announce hot flight attendant (females) wearing Go-Go boots and tight shorts. Don't laugh, it worked at SW for years! Many passed up legacies for the 'culture'. Can't imagine what those guys must be thinking now. lol.

They’re thinking “I’m making $300 an hour flying 737 with super productive trips and top of the line contract. Life is awesome.”

rickair7777 06-19-2018 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by David Puddy (Post 2617330)

Again, I personally find it interesting that Neeleman chose the CS300 despite being the biggest operator of Embraer E190/95s in the world through Azul and JetBlue. If that isn’t a confidence booster in the CSeries program before the big Farnborough Airshow in July I don’t know what is...

I doubt he would have gone there is airbus had not bought the whole program. Actually they were given the program.

Varsity 06-19-2018 02:11 PM

It's been awhile since someone has attempted a startup.

rickair7777 06-19-2018 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2617532)
It's been awhile since someone has attempted a startup.

Funny thing is, I was talking to my wife last week and wondering about when another one would pop up.

Virgalask330 06-19-2018 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2617633)
Funny thing is, I was talking to my wife last week and wondering about when another one would pop up.

Ok so maybe I’m not the only JFK Alaska pilot looking at this startup...ha

Pogey Bait 06-19-2018 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by David Puddy (Post 2617330)
That’s true - Neeleman is “bankable” because he has a track record (Morris Air, Westjet, JetBlue and Azul in Brazil). Plus, the former CEO of Air Canada is on board as an investor as well - lending more credibility.

Again, I personally find it interesting that Neeleman chose the CS300 despite being the biggest operator of Embraer E190/95s in the world through Azul and JetBlue. If that isn’t a confidence booster in the CSeries program before the big Farnborough Airshow in July I don’t know what is...

Ya go check out the economics on this plane, SWA just wishes it was it was a 737. Thing can go coast to coast and anywhere in between.

SmitteyB 06-20-2018 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by Triggs (Post 2616904)
He may be planning on buying an existing 121 cert with aircraft and pilots, adding the CS300 would be easier than starting from scratch. I know of several supplementals that are for sale

I don’t believe the FAA looks very favorable on this. I think the law changed after NWA bought the Independence Air ticket and kept it alive by keeping a single RJ running until it ultimately added E175s and renamed it Compass.

It is at the very least much much harder to do than it ever was before. That is why you never saw Pinnacle or Delta sell the Mesaba OR Colgan 121 Certificates.

rickair7777 06-20-2018 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by Virgalask330 (Post 2617696)
Ok so maybe I’m not the only JFK Alaska pilot looking at this startup...ha

You guys are probably the only pool of experienced major airline pilots who might be on the market for a startup right now.

nkbux 06-20-2018 06:41 AM

With all due respect... and I’m really not flaming...why not start over at B6 or TRY and get in at UAL or DL for an NYC base...I know it’s a massive pay cut but it can’t be more miserable than commuting to sfo...I’d sleep better at night being on the bottom of JetBlue’s list than I would at a start up


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