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12-10-2020, 05:56 AM
#871
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They aren’t dumb. This isn’t their first rodeo. Almost every single one of their initial employees was a jetblue and/or virgin early employee. They know what seniority is worth. Why pay any more than RJ wages when people are lined up by the thousands. Works for furloughed or current RJ pilots. Golden handcuffs? Not quite. But how long until major airline hiring resumes? Crossover point for training churn costs to exceed standard wages that would prevent turnover? At what point will increased revenue allow for higher personnel costs? I’m sure they are monitoring all that and will adjust if/when necessary. I doubt that happens for at least 5 years though.
12-10-2020, 06:07 AM
#872
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Originally Posted by copy
They aren’t dumb. This isn’t their first rodeo. Almost every single one of their initial employees was a jetblue and/or virgin early employee. They know what seniority is worth. Why pay any more than RJ wages when people are lined up by the thousands. Works for furloughed or current RJ pilots. Golden handcuffs? Not quite. But how long until major airline hiring resumes? Crossover point for training churn costs to exceed standard wages that would prevent turnover? At what point will increased revenue allow for higher personnel costs? I’m sure they are monitoring all that and will adjust if/when necessary. I doubt that happens for at least 5 years though.
12-10-2020, 06:26 AM
#873
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Originally Posted by UnableVNAVPTH
1: 55
2: 74
3: 83
4: 90
Monthly Guarantee is 55 hours
2: 74
3: 83
4: 90
Monthly Guarantee is 55 hours
12-10-2020, 06:49 AM
#874
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
Exactly. I think it gets real interesting 2-5 yrs from now assuming the industry turns around at 2-3 yrs. While breeze has pay scales that go to 2025, I'm curious to see if they really hold to that and risk a mass exodus. The pilots they've hired are by and large young enough to jump ship for a better major and not give it a second thought if this pay remains where it is later. I doubt most of their hires want to wait around for years and years to get a fair wage.
I’ll be willing to bet a fully stocked snack basket that they will create some sort of pilot pipeline with UVU like they are doing with FAs. Mesa did something similar back in the early 2000s with their Mesa Pilot Development program.
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12-10-2020, 07:01 AM
#875
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Originally Posted by ShooterMcGavin
The cool thing about Breeze is they aren’t forcing anyone to apply there. The pay and guarantee might truly be abysmal,but there are thousands of folks who would be trampling over each other for those jobs if God (or Allah) forbid we saw another massive industry crash like we did in March and April. Who knows,maybe it will be a huge bust in the long term,or maybe they will make airplane driving great again.
12-10-2020, 08:51 AM
#877
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Originally Posted by FlyingV
Ouch! That hurts, but I guess I can't judge those trying to provide for a family while their airline just shut down. Good luck y'all.
12-10-2020, 08:51 AM
#878
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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
That’s abysmal. I guess he can get away with it during these times.
12-10-2020, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by propellere
Why go make those rates when you can go fly corporate and make triple the salary and have better medical benefits? I see a lot of corporate/part 135 openings.
Many corporate/135 outfits won’t touch 121 folks because they fear they will bolt for the airlines as soon as they hire again.
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