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Old 09-27-2018, 06:16 PM
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My opinion is just get on with someone that has a base where you live. After that QOL follows. I'm reserve at UAL but live in base, and life is pretty amazing. But if I lived in Atlanta, it would not be, unless I worked for Delta.
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Old 09-27-2018, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RckyMtHigh View Post
My biggest factor in my job choice was quality of life over the first five years and the biggest factor in that was living in base. SWA was the fastest route to where I wanted to live, months of commuting vice years. In year three, I average 12 days of work a month, bid for early returns on last day when I can (home before noon on the last day is almost another day off). Most people at swa seem to be chasing the $, so lower paying easy trips are usually plentiful to trade with the company. Benefits for us slackers of no-pbs bidding is with monthly overlap correction can drop a day or two off your schedule and your week of vacation turns into 18+ days off. Dropping trips in their entirety is not easy. You need someone else to pick up from you and until you’re senior, probably not going to happen.

I chose SWA knowing I was giving up faster seniority and earning potential down the road (long term QOL). But with only a 15 year career, those were less important. If I was looking at a longer career, retirement numbers and variety of flying elsewhere would have made the decision more difficult.
True but you have to do AMs to get home by noon.
I've done a few PMS that don't report till 2100. That's pretty sweet also.
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Old 09-28-2018, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover View Post
True but you have to do AMs to get home by noon.
I've done a few PMS that don't report till 2100. That's pretty sweet also.
I’ve heard swa guys say AM and Pm before. Is that a set in stone thing? Can you not bid trips that leave after noon on day one and get back before noon on day three?
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Old 09-28-2018, 06:09 AM
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I’ve heard swa guys say AM and Pm before. Is that a set in stone thing? Can you not bid trips that leave after noon on day one and get back before noon on day three?
Not normally at SW. Sometimes CS splits open time trips that start as a PM on the first day, but are AMs the subsequent days.

Gotta be careful when bidding for open time, especially now that we can't give them away anymore.
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Old 09-28-2018, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SlipKid View Post
Not normally at SW. Sometimes CS splits open time trips that start as a PM on the first day, but are AMs the subsequent days.

Gotta be careful when bidding for open time, especially now that we can't give them away anymore.
Ok so it’s just how they build the trips. Got it. At least junior guys seem to get more days off than other airlines over there so that kinda negates it.
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Old 09-28-2018, 07:11 AM
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Ok so it’s just how they build the trips. Got it. At least junior guys seem to get more days off than other airlines over there so that kinda negates it.
No airline is really all that different. 10 months on the line with UA and I had Thanksgiving off and 19 total off in a 31 day bid month. And I was able to hold Hawaii and Latin America trips. What could be better than that if you have to fly 737s? If I want to make more money, I just go into open time and pick up. When I was tired of knee pain from 737 transcons, I bid the 756.
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Old 09-28-2018, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by webecheck View Post
No airline is really all that different. 10 months on the line with UA and I had Thanksgiving off and 19 total off in a 31 day bid month. And I was able to hold Hawaii and Latin America trips. What could be better than that if you have to fly 737s? If I want to make more money, I just go into open time and pick up. When I was tired of knee pain from 737 transcons, I bid the 756.
I think swa is unique in terms of the mornings or evenings. As in not commutable. I don’t commute but like to show up around lunch or afternoon on day one and day three be home by lunch or early afternoon.
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I think swa is unique in terms of the mornings or evenings. As in not commutable. I don’t commute but like to show up around lunch or afternoon on day one and day three be home by lunch or early afternoon.
Perhaps, as we can have a fully commutable schedule no problem. On the flip side, day 1 might be a redeye and day 4 is an early east coast wake up. So while commutable, some of those are way painful.

If your reserve system am/pm too? If so, that is probably nicer during the busy months when you know you're getting used.
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Spirit, while not an AM/PM airline, is pretty easy to get one or the other. I'm a PM kinda guy, not very senior in my spot, yet it's extremely rare that I ever have to set an alarm clock.
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Originally Posted by crxpilot View Post
Minimum time away from home......Allegiant.

All day trips 99% of the time.
Haha but it’s still allegiant at the end of the day. 7th grade football equivalent.
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