Al Czervik

Brilliant.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opin...to-air-safety/

BoilerUP

Yes, let’s use a pre-117 incident and a carved-out-of-117 cargo accident to make the point that fatigue policies are ineffective.

This passes for academia???

RhinoBallAuto

"...few, if any, studies..."
(includes link to a study)

Not academia, biased media.

rickair7777

Sounds more like bought off by the canadian air transport association.

Rama

Its always annoying how someone who has no experience in the field tries to make an argument for or against something when they really have no idea what they are talking about.

HandyUghes

Love that they call our regs "science-based". Part 117 is a hand wavy regulation with the word "circadian" thrown in to make it sound science-y. Airlines can still twist your sleep all over the place as long as you get ten hours of rest. What's sad is how amazing and efficient airline scheduling could be with modern tech. Instead the unions and old school software still in use keep us stuck in 1995. Part 117 should be more like DO-178b instead of a series of stupid bullet points.

gipple

Never forget that the FAA never has the pilots' best interest in mind. They are in existence solely to promote aviation. ie air commerce.
F M

rickair7777

But they can only kill so many paying pax in pursuit of commerce.

GuppyPuppy

My company had a fatigue training module last year that told us we should get sleep at consistent times each day.

Then they build 5-day trips with 3 circadian flips.

If you complain, their response is, "It's legal!"

Gup

Big E 757

When I was in my 20’s and early 30’s, I had no problem sleeping when I could, and either getting up at 3-4 am and working till mid afternoon, or being up till 12-1 am with very little problem staying awake and alert. What kills me these days is when I have one trip with late night flying, getting to the hotel around 1 am every night (morning) and then a day or two off at home where I’m not getting to sleep till late, but getting up for my wife and getting the kids off to school to give her a break, and then the next trip is all early mornings with 4 am pickups at the hotel.

After 8 or so days of that, I’m toast. I’ll be sitting on the couch staring off into space. My wife will say, “Why don’t you go to bed?” and even though I’m exhausted, I know it’s going to be a while before I fall asleep. After that many days of having an upset sleep schedule, I’m very fatigued, but I’ve been trying to stay awake for so long, I can’t just hit the off button and go to sleep.

I’m sure together, with some CIA guys at a black ops site, we could come up with a week long program to introduce this reporter to “fatigue”.