Jumpseat Hypothetical
01-03-2019, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by badflaps
I don't think the JS has ever been monitized, has it?
In the above situation he is not being paid to take the jumpseat, he is being paid to give up his positive space seat.
01-08-2019, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii808
How about a different spin on a jumpseat question. Supposed you are on a positive space ticket and the flight is oversold and travel vouchers are being offered to take a later flight. On boarding it is discovered that two people were assigned one seat. If the jumpseat is not in use would it be ok to offer to take the travel voucher and sit in the unoccupied jumpseat on the same flight in order to accommodate the passenger (child with his family) that was assigned an already occupied seat.
Originally Posted by rickair7777
I would. You gave up your seat so others could go, all the seats got filled by revenue customers. What you do after that is your business. But I'd tell the CA what you're up to, so there's no misunderstanding.
Assumes you were revenue PS, ie ticket bought by your employer on another airline... non-rev PS is probably not voucher eligible.
Assumes you were revenue PS, ie ticket bought by your employer on another airline... non-rev PS is probably not voucher eligible.
Originally Posted by Hawaii808
I fail to see how a carrier would get upset that somebody is willing to occupy the empty jumpseat so that other customers wouldn’t get bumped from a flight. There would be no revenue lost as somebody would have gotten the voucher when they involuntarily get bumped from the flight. Would it be ok for the pilot/passenger to take the voucher, exit the aircraft, and then walk 20 feet to the next gate and request to jumpseat on a full flight that leaves 45 minutes later? It’s the same thing minus the hassle.
Not trying to start an argument. I’m just interested in what airline captains would think if that situation ever presented itself to them. I would probably be fine with it as it solves a problem and maximizes the number of passengers getting to their destination.
Not trying to start an argument. I’m just interested in what airline captains would think if that situation ever presented itself to them. I would probably be fine with it as it solves a problem and maximizes the number of passengers getting to their destination.
I know I left some replies out, but the scenario at hand is specifically forbidden. You aren't even supposed to do that on your own airline's jumpseat, but never on OAL. You can throw out all of the "no one's getting hurt" stuff you want, but it is not permitted and not kosher. Even on your own airline you could be resulting in an OAL jumpseater being denied (do you think the agent will mention there is someone you would bump trying to jumpeat if you're going to save work?).
I have seen before where someone gave up a positive space seat trying to play a game like this and then didn't get the jumpseat… oops. Agent doesn't care anymore because the problem is solved.
In any case, this isn't about "the airline being upset." This is about you violating the jumpseat agreement. You aren't even supposed to take the voucher and jumpseat on a completely different airline than the one you got a voucher on (oh, can you see how that airline might be upset that you were paid to take their jumpseat or saved someone from being paid to take a passenger seat on them?). Basically, anything that is done specifically to save an airline money or to get you extra money by not taking a paid for deadhead is impermissible.
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