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m3113n1a1 01-22-2019 11:05 AM

Can't really go wrong with either right now. I'm at Delta, but I think right now United has more upside (unless you want to live in a DL base then 100% choose Delta). I think UA will have a consistent quick upgrade in both SFO and EWR whereas Delta's is streaky. Also Delta has hired far more pilots already during this wave. United has more access to widebody flying if that's your thing. Delta's profit sharing is awesome, but United has some better contractual things also and profit sharing isn't a guarantee.

All in all, if bases matter choose accordingly. If upgrade/seniority matters most then pick United (or widebody flying).

labbats 01-22-2019 11:18 AM

Where does your wife want to live?

All the money differences pale in comparison to a significant other that’s home alone three or four days a week.

ShyGuy 01-22-2019 11:37 AM

I'll recommend someone no one else has. Be a rebel, turn them both down :D

They'll never see it coming!

Packrat 01-22-2019 12:03 PM

One thing to consider. Delta has a "one and done" policy. That is if you fail your first upgrade you're an F/O for life.

I recently heard that from a Delta Captain and couldn't believe it. Every other airline I know of gives you at least two chances to make an upgrade. He told me he knows of a 28 year old pilot who will be an F/O at Delta for life because he took an early upgrade and failed.

Not that you're worried about that, but it is something to factor in.

ShyGuy 01-22-2019 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2747927)
One thing to consider. Delta has a "one and done" policy. That is if you fail your first upgrade you're an F/O for life.

I recently heard that from a Delta Captain and couldn't believe it. Every other airline I know of gives you at least two chances to make an upgrade. He told me he knows of a 28 year old pilot who will be an F/O at Delta for life because he took an early upgrade and failed.

Not that you're worried about that, but it is something to factor in.

I highly doubt this is true.

marcal 01-22-2019 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2747927)
One thing to consider. Delta has a "one and done" policy. That is if you fail your first upgrade you're an F/O for life.

I recently heard that from a Delta Captain and couldn't believe it. Every other airline I know of gives you at least two chances to make an upgrade. He told me he knows of a 28 year old pilot who will be an F/O at Delta for life because he took an early upgrade and failed.

Not that you're worried about that, but it is something to factor in.

What are you talking about? This is 100% false. Like anything in today's aviation world, be humble, take responsibility, and ask for help and you WILL be given another chance.....probably multiple if need be.

rightside02 01-22-2019 01:54 PM

Lots of airlines have a max in upgrade attempts. When I was at Jetblue it was 2 max . May have changed . And yes we had FO’s who were lifers due to this.

To the original topic , cultures do change over the years but can you see you self more at one versus another ? I would do fine at either one I’m sure, but for my few years at United I have dealt with an awesome group of pilots . I think they are both great careers opportunities . You can find fault and greatness with either one . What everyone else said , but I would lay the decision heavily on where you could see your self and family living for a long time .


Congrats again !

80ktsClamp 01-22-2019 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2747927)
One thing to consider. Delta has a "one and done" policy. That is if you fail your first upgrade you're an F/O for life.

I recently heard that from a Delta Captain and couldn't believe it. Every other airline I know of gives you at least two chances to make an upgrade. He told me he knows of a 28 year old pilot who will be an F/O at Delta for life because he took an early upgrade and failed.

Not that you're worried about that, but it is something to factor in.

It’s not something to factor in, because he sold you a bag of goods. :eek: In other words... absolutely false.


For the OP... can’t go wrong with either! Think about where you (your wife!) want to live, and try to not commute if you can!

GogglesPisano 01-22-2019 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 2747927)
One thing to consider. Delta has a "one and done" policy. That is if you fail your first upgrade you're an F/O for life.

I recently heard that from a Delta Captain and couldn't believe it. Every other airline I know of gives you at least two chances to make an upgrade. He told me he knows of a 28 year old pilot who will be an F/O at Delta for life because he took an early upgrade and failed.

Not that you're worried about that, but it is something to factor in.

Patently false.

Are you sure he wasn’t a Delta Connection pilot?

deadseal 01-22-2019 04:28 PM

Live in base. nuff said


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