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02-16-2019, 09:09 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
The remaining 38% - not flying for the big 6, LCCs, and regionals. What would be your guess as to what they are doing and how many will be drawn in?
Speculate. Go...
We all can make a laundry list of things these pilots are doing today, but how many is the question.
(I have my guesses.)
Speculate. Go...
We all can make a laundry list of things these pilots are doing today, but how many is the question.
(I have my guesses.)
02-17-2019, 12:40 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Well, at least another 4000 are flying for Atlas, ACIM, and the like. Fractionals are good 5000 more. Another 4000 miscellaneous charter, and that leaves 47,000 to go. I would imagine half the rest are flying miscellaneous business jets. There are nearly 12,000 BUSINESS jets registered in the US, most of which are professionally flown. Some, I don't know how many, would be over 65 but still keeping a current physical for flying their RVs and other expensive toys.
02-17-2019, 04:20 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by Peacock
Plus sim instructors, military guys trying to get hired, and guys flying overseas
We need to keep in mind that a few years ago getting your ATP wasn’t that much harder than wrapping up a multi add on. I know two career CFIs myself who also hold an ATP because why not.
02-17-2019, 04:33 AM
#25
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I would venture a guess that the majority of pilots at the American wholly owned regionals don’t have their apps in anywhere. It’s understandable to some degree. It takes about 4-5 years for a regional pilot to gain the experience to be realistically competitive. And by that time they’re looking at 1-2 years left to flow to mainline American. Many still try to get out but I see a lot of qualified pilots apply and never get called and just end up flowing.
And conversely the vast majority of pilots I talk to at other regionals aren’t even applying at American because the number of off the street civilians hired is very small. So they are all competing for the jobs at Delta, UA, FedEx, SWA, etc
And conversely the vast majority of pilots I talk to at other regionals aren’t even applying at American because the number of off the street civilians hired is very small. So they are all competing for the jobs at Delta, UA, FedEx, SWA, etc
02-17-2019, 05:22 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I would venture a guess that the majority of pilots at the American wholly owned regionals don’t have their apps in anywhere. It’s understandable to some degree. It takes about 4-5 years for a regional pilot to gain the experience to be realistically competitive. And by that time they’re looking at 1-2 years left to flow to mainline American. Many still try to get out but I see a lot of qualified pilots apply and never get called and just end up flowing.
And conversely the vast majority of pilots I talk to at other regionals aren’t even applying at American because the number of off the street civilians hired is very small. So they are all competing for the jobs at Delta, UA, FedEx, SWA, etc
And conversely the vast majority of pilots I talk to at other regionals aren’t even applying at American because the number of off the street civilians hired is very small. So they are all competing for the jobs at Delta, UA, FedEx, SWA, etc
02-17-2019, 06:23 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I would venture a guess that the majority of pilots at the American wholly owned regionals don’t have their apps in anywhere. It’s understandable to some degree. It takes about 4-5 years for a regional pilot to gain the experience to be realistically competitive.
And conversely the vast majority of pilots I talk to at other regionals aren’t even applying at American because the number of off the street civilians hired is very small.
02-17-2019, 06:29 AM
#28
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Originally Posted by Voski
I’m at Envoy and know plenty of people that aren’t trying to leave. They’re usually within 3 years of their projected flow (from the union). One of my friends said she’s never had an app out anywhere else and doesn’t intend to.
02-17-2019, 07:53 AM
#29
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Originally Posted by captjns
Curious to know... with shorter upgrade times currently, is it easier for a regional pilot to live in base without the commute hassle, versus the big 3 in many cases?
So less traffic, closer to airport, more affordable. But that's about the only thing easier at a regional in most cases.
02-17-2019, 07:59 AM
#30
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Originally Posted by Poser765
lets throw another group in of indeterminate size.
We need to keep in mind that a few years ago getting your ATP wasn’t that much harder than wrapping up a multi add on. I know two career CFIs myself who also hold an ATP because why not.
We need to keep in mind that a few years ago getting your ATP wasn’t that much harder than wrapping up a multi add on. I know two career CFIs myself who also hold an ATP because why not.
That's a generality, I don't mean to discourage anyone who is really motivated.
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