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Old 06-15-2019, 05:46 PM
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No doubt the Airbus is a very comfortable office for pilots - including the narrow bodies. But the XLR will suck for economy passengers. Fly 7-8 hours in a single-aisle airplane? Unless I am in the front part of a JB MINT cabin, NO THANKS.
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I dont imagine it will be any more unpleasant than 18hrs in a WB coach seat.
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Old 06-15-2019, 06:57 PM
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The 321 is quite the beast... I landed on Runway 33 in DCA a month or 2 ago with 191 passengers, FA jumpseater, and 2 cockpit jumpseaters, plus plenty of alternate fuel. She did it easily with plenty of room to spare.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:03 PM
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The 321 is quite the beast... I landed on Runway 33 in DCA a month or 2 ago with 191 passengers, FA jumpseater, and 2 cockpit jumpseaters, plus plenty of alternate fuel. She did it easily with plenty of room to spare.
That's also before the brake upgrade with the neo.

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No doubt the Airbus is a very comfortable office for pilots - including the narrow bodies. But the XLR will suck for economy passengers. Fly 7-8 hours in a single-aisle airplane? Unless I am in the front part of a JB MINT cabin, NO THANKS.
Coach is always horrible past 2 hours.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:06 PM
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That's also before the brake upgrade with the neo.


Coach is always horrible.
What they need to do too is change the decel rate for low autobrakes. Low is wayyyy too low in general, and medium is good for aggressiveness (like on 33), but it sucks that low is almost unusable.

I typically arm low, get the nose down and then take over manually immediately. Most just arm medium all the time and toss everyone's faces into the IFE screens, haha.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:29 PM
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It just does not have near the performance.
Right. And that's why it's more economical.

The 321NEO is so damn efficient, airlines can't wait to retire their 757s.
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Old 06-15-2019, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
What they need to do too is change the decel rate for low autobrakes. Low is wayyyy too low in general, and medium is good for aggressiveness (like on 33), but it sucks that low is almost unusable.

I typically arm low, get the nose down and then take over manually immediately. Most just arm medium all the time and toss everyone's faces into the IFE screens, haha.
Technique I settled on was autobrakes low for directional stability (especially with any real crosswinds) and then just hop on the brakes myself as desired. I'd change that up landing in Vegas however, since that technique heats up the brakes more than necessary. In Vegas I'd make sure I didn't land long and then hold off on the brakes entirely until the high speed while using max reversers, and go with one brake application to make the turnoff. That could cut brake temps in half compared with other couldn't-give-a-shxt techniques some crews used. Point of pride handing the plane over to the next crew with temps below 300 instead of 500+ like some would.

737s I'm flying now don't have brake temp gauges so minimizing taxi time by stomping on the brakes to make the early turnoff doesn't have much of a negative operational impact. If the plugs don't burst, temps must be ok right?
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Old 06-16-2019, 02:08 AM
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Anyone ever experimented with brake temps on low vs med?

I've always wondered if in a heavy 321, autobrakes medium might yield a lower brake temperature because the brake application is so much shorter? When you have a high approach speed in a heavy 321, autobrakes low seems to make for such a long application of brakes, I've always wondered if a shorted, harder application might be better. I don't know. I only use medium on short runways for passenger comfort, but a heavy 321 can sure cook the brakes.

Also, brake fans on the 320NEO are awesome and badly missing on the 321
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:13 AM
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I dont imagine it will be any more unpleasant than 18hrs in a WB coach seat.
For some reason on long narrowbody flts seems like the fa’s are always in aisle and using bathroom more of a timing exercise. On wb they seem to be able to get through faster plus additional bathrooms to use. May just be a perception.
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You guys sound like flight instructors and LCC dweebs that are in their rooms at a LC hotel, playing flight sim and posting on web forums, while the cool kids are chasing girls at the bar.
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