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Old 06-13-2019, 10:01 PM
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With Boeing's turbulent year and Airbus being in a good stand, financially and in the public eye, will the A321XRL serve as the optimal 757 replacement? As pilots we all daydream of flying a 757-like airplane with much improved tech and ergonomics, but also it makes a lot of financial sense. What are your thoughts?
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I’ve never flown a 757, but based on my hours in a 321 and conversations with 757 whisperers.... the 321 is NOTHING like flying a 757. It’ll just be as heavy and long as a -200. That’s where the similarities will end. Don’t get me wrong, I fully enjoy the bus, but it’ll never handle like a 75.
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I’ve never flown a 757, but based on my hours in a 321 and conversations with 757 whisperers.... the 321 is NOTHING like flying a 757. It’ll just be as heavy and long as a -200. That’s where the similarities will end. Don’t get me wrong, I fully enjoy the bus, but it’ll never handle like a 75.
Handling couldn’t possibly be more irrelevant to the replacement decision. The 321 has already and will continue to replace 757s in any route where they are capable of satisfactory economics.
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Isn't the 321XLR still vaporware?

Or is everybody expecting it to be formally launched at Le Bourget next week?
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Isn't the 321XLR still vaporware?

Or is everybody expecting it to be formally launched at Le Bourget next week?
I think it's coming soon. Opens up North Atlantic for players on both sides who don't want a new fleet type and definitely don't want a WB.

It's possible that both airframers will decide the niche is too small, and elect to not spend the money. Boeing has more R&D at stake, but airbus might follow their lead if they don't have to try to keep up with the Jones'... the airlines can just buy 787/A350 if they need the legs.
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Originally Posted by Hellafo View Post
With Boeing's turbulent year and Airbus being in a good stand, financially and in the public eye, will the A321XRL serve as the optimal 757 replacement? As pilots we all daydream of flying a 757-like airplane with much improved tech and ergonomics, but also it makes a lot of financial sense. What are your thoughts?
The A321 already has better tech and ergonomics than the 757.
I’d look for Frontier to announce they have converted some of their 460 Airbus airframe order to the 321XLR.
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Old 06-14-2019, 07:08 PM
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Isn't the 321XLR still vaporware?

Or is everybody expecting it to be formally launched at Le Bourget next week?
Yeah, that's what the press is saying ahead of the show. 500-800 additional miles of range to the 321LR.
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Old 06-15-2019, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt View Post
I’ve never flown a 757, but based on my hours in a 321 and conversations with 757 whisperers.... the 321 is NOTHING like flying a 757. It’ll just be as heavy and long as a -200. That’s where the similarities will end. Don’t get me wrong, I fully enjoy the bus, but it’ll never handle like a 75.
I’ve flown both, and the biggest difference I’ve noticed, is takeoff and landing performance. The 757, by virtue of the extra 4 main tires/brakes, can stop sooo much better than the 321. Of all the planes I’ve flown, the 757 was my favorite, but I really enjoy the 321 too.
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The A321 already has better tech and ergonomics than the 757.
I’d look for Frontier to announce they have converted some of their 460 Airbus airframe order to the 321XLR.
It just does not have near the performance.
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No airline executive cares about T/O & L performance on the routes a 321XLR would fly. The airports are all plenty big with plenty of runway length. I'm sure there are a couple of exceptions but really there's no need to make the 321 stop quicker in order to make it fit the market.

As a pilot I would love to fly a 75-like airplane someday but as a realist I just don't see it happening as long as the 737 and A320 continue to be cash cows for both airlines and manufacturers.
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