Originally Posted by Big E 757

I agree with this. This earth is 6-7 billion years old. Fossilized tropical plants have been found in Montana and Wyoming, from millions of years ago, indicating that at one point, those states had a much more moderate climate. The earth has experienced ice ages and the melting of glacial ice packs for millions of years. Reversals of the magnetic poles. The earth has been through a lot, and all this “scientific data” of global warming is based off of the last 200 years of recorded data. In any other scientific world, 200 years of data against 6 billion years of existence would be such a small sample size, it wouldn’t be relevant or acceptable.

Originally Posted by BoldPilot

Scientists across the globe are sounding the alarm on our planet heating up due to fossil fuel dependency. If we can’t believe our scientists and instead listen to our corrupt politicians who take kickbacks from these oil companies who are apart of the problem then what will we become? I’m not saying we get rid of oil immediately, we can’t. America needs to do what it does best and innovate. That is truly what will make “America great again”. Innovation was what made this nation the best, not a huge military power. We provided the highest standard of living this world has ever seen through innovation. I feel that finding a better more renewable energy source the problem could be solved. Calling climate change a “political problem” and pushing a “political agenda” is juvenile. This is a world problem and America needs to show the world that we can solve it. For those that don’t believe our scientists I implore you to use Google and it’s “search function” (as you guys like to bash people who seek answers on these message boards) to find information regarding this topic.

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

The scientists that have proposed the theory and backed it up with data about climate change are not claiming that this is so because it's warming. That goes back to your idea that yes, the earth gets warmer and it gets cooler and there are cycles. That is absolutely not what it is about. It's about the rate of warming, which can be compared to historic data, if you have a reliable way to tell what the temperature was previously and how fast it previously changed. Yes, I know there's a claim that all these "fancy scientists" are living in mansions driving around Ferraris because they somehow found a goldmine of free money for their "science agenda", but maybe go talk to some of these "scientists" if you ever have the chance. I've talked to quite a few at NWS and other places, as well as those going out to conduct research in the field.

Originally Posted by Andy

James, a huge problem is that adjustments of temperature data is accepted as a practice. Once that happened, the database became worthless due to confirmation bias. So our entire historical temperature record is completely unreliable and worthless.
There are many other problems with climate science but at its core, it is built on fake data.

Originally Posted by OOfff

This is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of how science is done. Adjusting data to minimize sampling errors and align data from different sources is extremely common across all fields.

Originally Posted by Rolf

From that same quoted article.

“The paper has been criticised for not being peer reviewed and other climate scientists have refuted the conclusions reached by Kauppinen and Malmi. Critics have said that in addition to not being peer reviewed, Malmi and Kauppinen fail to provide correct physical explanation, have not linked to- or sited to enough sources to support their claims and although they denounce climate models, they use one themselves to prove their own points.”

Originally Posted by OOfff

This is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of how science is done. Adjusting data to minimize sampling errors and align data from different sources is extremely common across all fields.

Originally Posted by Blue Dude

It is NOT common to deny access to raw data, and fail to disclose why and how much adjustment took place.

Originally Posted by BobZ

In CA i think thats an automatic death sentence