Anyone who has been here 4 yrs is a captain if they want to be. $227. Retirement is lacking....working on it.

How many days home a month do you get?


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14-16 on a regular month. If max time at home is your thing then working at a major/LCC and living in base with quite a bit of seniority is what you want. If you want to live in your lake house in the middle of nowhere and not commute....then this works well.

Not knocking Kalitta but you'd still need to work 1300 hours to gross 300k at that rate.

We don’t work with part 117 rules. Having said that it’s pretty easy to “credit” those kind of hours. We always have 3 pilots and some times operate double crews for the longer days.

Next contract will be addressing the retirement short comings.

How does extra crew members increase your pay for a rotation? Based on what you’re posting and considering the deadheads on either end you are crediting over a 100 hours a month working 12 to 13 days. Those are great schedules or you have amazing work rules.

We get k4, your job isn’t as bad as it once was. But let’s not get silly and say it’s better than a legacy Airline. Sincerely, I’ve been at that DHL ramp myself

The APC Rates haven’t been updated. By the 4th year they probably have upgraded already. Omni upgrades are around 2 years.
$300k as a junior CA over there is entirely reasonable.

Nobody is saying it beats a legacy job, for some it might.... topic for a separate discussion. This discussion was best commuting policies. The job is certainly as good as a JB, Spirit or others in the majors forum. If you like large blocks of time off all at once it may be a better job for some.

So, if it’s a commuting policy comparison, I’d say K4, Omni & ATI have the best policies. Positive space, keeping the miles, all the time every time, never on their own time, counts towards duty time, never need a Crashpad as hotels are always provided and in most cases the pilot keeps the points.

However, I think the discussion was meant to be of the airlines jumpseating to/from work who has the best commuter policy. That would exclude the ACMI’s from the comparison.

Going into the weeds on the details, but you can have some protection on double deadhead trips if you meet with any portion of the scheduled deadhead. Say the company has scheduled MEM-DFW-SAN on AA and you live in OKC for example. If you book OKC-DFW-SAN using the same leg as they did from DFW-SAN you are protected once you get to DFW. I’ve been able to use that far more than I thought I would when it first came about.


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There are 4 Categories for the Jumpseat on SWA and within each category it is FCFS. The 1st Category are SWA employees on company business. The 2nd Category are SWA Pilots. The 3rd Category are authorized SWA employees (Dispatchers, Mechanics, Instructors, and Station Managers). The 4th Category are OAL Pilots. So as an OAL Pilot not only can you be bumped by a SWA Pilot who shows up after you but it could be a SWA Dispatcher or Mechanic. But as others have said they can also take the 4th F/A jumpseat if it is available.